Dramatic SFB: Flexible Escorts

[David Hanson]

 I fail to see the distinction between the Gorn and Hydran SRV both at 8 fighters.  It seems to me that once the Hydran SR takes on the extra fight and SRV designation that it cross the same line as every other races Survey Cruiser.  S8.321 does nothing to define what a hybrid.  I do not see how a Hydran SRV fits under this.  It being a SRV make you a true carrier which should be universal.
(S8.321) Hydran hybrid-ships (non-true-carriers) are exempt from thisrestriction. True carriers (those requiring escorts) must count theirfighters against the overall limit. Hydran carrier escorts are treated ashybrids.

    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 08:03:31 PM CST, Matt via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:  
 
  
 
 
Matt your own description disagrees with your interpretation of the SUP-A. You say it is a true carrier simply based on it having 8 fighters. But...it absolutely did not sacrifice anything to achieve that. 
  True carriers are ships that have sacrificed weapons and power to hold fighters
   

 
 
Perhaps true in some cases. I was attempting to speak generally when defining the various carrier types. True carriers also encompass Scout carriers, Interdiction carriers and patrol carriers.
 
 

 
 
  The SRVs again...sacrificed nothing. They were built as Survey ships with really crappy weapons and scout channels severely limiting their usefulness. They came with a couple fighters some times. Then as the war broke out they just shoved more on. At best no matter how many they carry they are simple hybrids.  
 
SRVs are defined as carriers the same way as anything else is defined as a carrier. If you want to quibble about the definition of true carriers as above, consider the below list.
 
 
Gorn SRV: 8 fighters. A true carrier per (S8.322).
 
Fed GSCv: 2 fighters. A casual carrier per (J4.62).
 
Fed CVL: (A GSC with 8 fighters). A true carrier per (S8.322).
 
Hydran SRV: 8 fighters. Hybrid carrier per (S8.321).
 
Kzinti SRV: 4 fighters. Hybrid carrier per (S8.322). 
 

 
 
  The Hydran Ranger becomes a True Carrier at 9 fighters. What escort is it required to have? 
   
 
None. It is a hybrid carrier, per (S8.321)
 

 
 
  Your interpretation and issues I understand on the stand alone ships that carry fighters. It seems unbalanced. And without the war would have been. But the war made strange decisions for the ships. Yet it did not make them into full carriers requiring escorts. They were often just adhoc concepts that since we could we did. Making them at best hybrids no matter how many fighters they had.  
  Anyway, I am just saying, your reasoning seems flawed if the main reason is because it has 8 instead of 6 so it cannot be a hybrid when as the example...a Ranger is a Hybrid.  
 

 
 
I'm just going by the rules as published. If you think that 8 fighters (as an example) should be a hybrid carrier, making PVs, DDVs, DWVs, and SRVs count as hybrid carriers, then talk to the people who wrote the rules. In the mean time, I need to fend off the people who claim I'm being inconsistent with the application of the rules. 

  

 
 
--Matt
 
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