Dramatic SFB: Age of PFs

Tue Apr 21 23:52:57 PDT 2020

I'm out about 290 points but had to suck it up! Our dungeon master is not
good with giving money out 😀

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 05:49, Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama <
sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:

> Well, I think it's been established that enough of us have had this
> issue so it might not have been a mistake.
>
> I certainly wouldn't mind a correction if possible since I'm out 75 big
> ones... but like I said, I'll be cool with whatever is decided. ;)
>
> I should note I'm also getting the issue with the ship icons on the
> orders screen... Not all of them, but a good chunk of them don't have
> images apparently.  I never played border wars so  I can't really say on
> that one.
>
>
> On 2020-04-21 19:44, Mike Johnson wrote:
> > As this is my maiden voyage it was most likely a mistake on my part
> > when I submitted orders.  I'm not exactly upset as it results in a
> > benefit to me, however I don't really feel like I earned the
> > reward.
> >
> > Matt, if the precedent has been that orders are played as submitted
> > regardless of errors I would agree that the current result stands.
> > However if corrections have been allowed in the past I think this
> > situation should  qualify for similar treatment as it was not my
> > intent to commit any forces to scenario 796.
> >
> > -Mike (Lyrans)
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:42 PM Gregory Flusche
> > <shagrat1960 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have found playing Matts system that sometimes I have placed a
> >> ship to a scenario and saved my orders. Then changed my mind and
> >> placed it elsewhere but forgot to change my orders and well Ship was
> >> not were I thought I sent it. .
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:29 PM Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama
> >> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok.. I was starting to think I was just crazy... but I'll be
> >>> honest,
> >>> I've seen this a few times too.... Where I could swear I bid to a
> >>>
> >>> scenario, but the ship showed up in another... and I'm like "why
> >>> did I
> >>> bid a ship to a scenario with a 45ep reward and not the 120ep???"
> >>>
> >>> This has happened a few times.
> >>>
> >>> Just for the record, I'm perfectly fine with you keeping the win
> >>> even if
> >>> it was a mistake (or some other error)... I was just confused
> >>> that the
> >>> ship didn't show up under "Empire Name Lyran" where the bid ships
> >>>
> >>> usually show up.  It only mentions the dragons.
> >>>
> >>> On 2020-04-21 09:59, Mike Johnson wrote:
> >>>> Ok I figured out which ship it is.  It is my carrier, this is
> >>> some
> >>>> kind of error because the carrier escorts ended up in the
> >>> correct
> >>>> scenario.  In fact is this even a valid assignment? A carrier
> >>> with no
> >>>> escorts?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mike Johnson
> >>> <mdjohnson2112 at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Lyrans here... I did not bid any ships to this scenario.
> >>> Matt can
> >>>>> you tell which ship you are seeing from my fleet?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:15 AM Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama
> >>>>> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Just a question on this....  It seems like I'm being
> >>> penalized
> >>>>>> even
> >>>>>> though I don't see that any ships were bid by the opponent.
> >>> Is
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>> accurate?  Looking below, it does seem like maybe there was
> >>>>>> one... so is
> >>>>>> it just a "reporting error".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or a tactical error for the "new guy" to piss off his
> >>> neighbor
> >>>>>> when he
> >>>>>> has such a tiny fleet?..... *shrugs* dunno.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (But seriously, was something bid for this and it just didn't
> >>>>>> show up
> >>>>>> clearly?)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dragon Attack #796
> >>>>>> The Drewzarian Federation (Federation) has not been
> >>> successful in
> >>>>>> their
> >>>>>> defense.
> >>>>>> Defender's reward for successful defense by the Drewzarian
> >>>>>> Federation
> >>>>>> (Federation): EP60
> >>>>>> Defender's penalty for unsuccessful defense: EP-75
> >>>>>> Attacker's reward for an unsuccessful defense: EP45
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> INITIAL SET UP
> >>>>>> TERRAIN: Class-M planet at 0628
> >>>>>> Drewzarian Federation (Federation) PLAYER: No defender's
> >>> ships
> >>>>>> bid
> >>>>>> within two hexes of 0328, speed 10, heading C.
> >>>>>> Empire Name (Lyran) PLAYER: A number of Space Dragons
> >>> (SM7.46)
> >>>>>> set up in
> >>>>>> hex 4201 (see below), heading D.
> >>>>>> LENGTH OF SCENARIO: The scenario continues until the end of a
> >>>>>> turn in
> >>>>>> which the dragons have accrued enough ravaging points or
> >>> until
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>> forces belonging to either player have been destroyed,
> >>> captured,
> >>>>>> or have
> >>>>>> disengaged.
> >>>>>> SPECIAL RULES
> >>>>>> MAP: Use a floating map. Any unit that is more than 50 hexes
> >>> from
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> planet is considered to have disengaged by separation (C7.2).
> >>>>>> SHUTTLES AND PFs: All shuttles and PFs have warp booster
> >>> packs if
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> year selected allows them. Shuttles are advanced types if the
> >>>>>> year
> >>>>>> selected allows their use.
> >>>>>> MRS shuttles may be purchased [up to the limits in (J8.5) ].
> >>>>>> If using EW fighters, one fighter in each squadron may be of
> >>> this
> >>>>>> type.
> >>>>>> COMMANDER'S OPTION ITEMS
> >>>>>> Each ship can purchase additional or special equipment as
> >>>>>> Commander's
> >>>>>> Option Items (e.g., T-bombs, extra marines, etc.) up to 20%
> >>> of
> >>>>>> its
> >>>>>> Combat BPV. See (S3.2) for details and exceptions.
> >>>>>> All drone speeds and types are available, subject only to the
> >>>>>> year
> >>>>>> selected for the scenario.
> >>>>>> Each drone-armed ship can purchase special drones up to the
> >>>>>> historical
> >>>>>> racial percentages as part of the Commander's Option Items.
> >>> Note
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> (S3.2) allows drone ships extra points for this purpose.
> >>>>>> If players wish to use the optional rules for Prime Teams
> >>>>>> (G32.0), they
> >>>>>> can purchase one team (25 points each) as part of their
> >>>>>> Commander's
> >>>>>> Options.
> >>>>>> SPACE DRAGONS There are a number of Space Dragons equal to
> >>> the
> >>>>>> number of
> >>>>>> ships the Empire Name (Lyran) player bid to the scenario (1
> >>>>>> ships). The
> >>>>>> total BPV of the Space Dragons is equal to or less than the
> >>> total
> >>>>>> BPV
> >>>>>> assigned by the Empire Name (Lyran) player (206 BPV). The
> >>> Empire
> >>>>>> Name
> >>>>>> (Lyran) player must declare the ages of each Space Dragon
> >>> before
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> Drewzarian Federation (Federation) player sets up. For each
> >>>>>> dragon
> >>>>>> killed, the Empire Name (Lyran) player must cripple a ship
> >>> that
> >>>>>> they
> >>>>>> assigned to the battle (their choice.)
> >>>>>> The Empire Name (Lyran) player has assigned these ships: SR+m
> >>> w/
> >>>>>> BOB-As
> >>>>>> ""
> >>>>>> THE SPACE DRAGON SPECIAL RULES:
> >>>>>> • Maximum speed is determined by it's wing-health divided
> >>> by
> >>>>>> it's
> >>>>>> 'speed' trait. TM is 1. May HET once per turn. May elect to
> >>> skip
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>> movement it may normally take.
> >>>>>> • May be displaced, trapped in web, placed in stasis, but
> >>> not
> >>>>>> tractored.
> >>>>>> • Has a pair of phasers (determined by age) that may fire
> >>> every
> >>>>>> turn, a
> >>>>>> plasma (determined by age) that may fire every second turn,
> >>> and a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> range-0 attack that uses the Morey Eel chart (SM3.46) and
> >>> that
> >>>>>> may be
> >>>>>> used once per turn.
> >>>>>> • May identify a single seeking weapon every impulse (range
> >>>>>> determined
> >>>>>> by age.)
> >>>>>> • Up to three times an impulse, the dragon may attempt to
> >>> kill
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>> shuttle or seeking weapon (including plasma) in it's hex (and
> >>>>>> before the
> >>>>>> seeker impacts) on a roll of 1-5. When the tail is destroyed,
> >>> the
> >>>>>> dragon
> >>>>>> may no longer perform this.
> >>>>>> • For every 32 consecutive impulses spent in the same hex
> >>> as
> >>>>>> the planet,
> >>>>>> the dragon scores it's 'Points for Ravaging' as victory
> >>> points
> >>>>>> for the
> >>>>>> Empire Name (Lyran) player.
> >>>>>> • Note that according to (D6.397), Space Dragons are not
> >>>>>> affected by
> >>>>>> electronic warfare.
> >>>>>> VICTORY CONDITIONS: Destruction of a Space Dragon counts as
> >>> an
> >>>>>> amount of
> >>>>>> victory points equal to twice the 'Points for Ravaging' that
> >>> that
> >>>>>> dragon
> >>>>>> can inflict. The amount of ravaging points that each Space
> >>> Dragon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> inflicts on the planet, counts as victory points for the
> >>> Empire
> >>>>>> Name
> >>>>>> (Lyran) player. The player with the most victory points wins.
> >>>>>> Ties go to
> >>>>>> the Drewzarian Federation (Federation) player.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2020-04-20 23:55, Matt via SFBdrama wrote:
> >>>>>>> Yay!! We've got pow pow!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --Matt
> >>>>>>>
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