Dramatic SFB: Age of PFs

Tue Apr 21 19:22:30 PDT 2020

Well, I think it's been established that enough of us have had this 
issue so it might not have been a mistake.

I certainly wouldn't mind a correction if possible since I'm out 75 big 
ones... but like I said, I'll be cool with whatever is decided. ;)

I should note I'm also getting the issue with the ship icons on the 
orders screen... Not all of them, but a good chunk of them don't have 
images apparently.  I never played border wars so  I can't really say on 
that one.

On 2020-04-21 19:44, Mike Johnson wrote:
> As this is my maiden voyage it was most likely a mistake on my part
> when I submitted orders.  I'm not exactly upset as it results in a
> benefit to me, however I don't really feel like I earned the
> reward.  
> 
> Matt, if the precedent has been that orders are played as submitted
> regardless of errors I would agree that the current result stands. 
> However if corrections have been allowed in the past I think this
> situation should  qualify for similar treatment as it was not my
> intent to commit any forces to scenario 796.
> 
> -Mike (Lyrans)
> 
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:42 PM Gregory Flusche
> <shagrat1960 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have found playing Matts system that sometimes I have placed a
>> ship to a scenario and saved my orders. Then changed my mind and
>> placed it elsewhere but forgot to change my orders and well Ship was
>> not were I thought I sent it. . 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:29 PM Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama
>> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok.. I was starting to think I was just crazy... but I'll be
>>> honest,
>>> I've seen this a few times too.... Where I could swear I bid to a
>>> 
>>> scenario, but the ship showed up in another... and I'm like "why
>>> did I
>>> bid a ship to a scenario with a 45ep reward and not the 120ep???"
>>> 
>>> This has happened a few times.
>>> 
>>> Just for the record, I'm perfectly fine with you keeping the win
>>> even if
>>> it was a mistake (or some other error)... I was just confused
>>> that the
>>> ship didn't show up under "Empire Name Lyran" where the bid ships
>>> 
>>> usually show up.  It only mentions the dragons.
>>> 
>>> On 2020-04-21 09:59, Mike Johnson wrote:
>>>> Ok I figured out which ship it is.  It is my carrier, this is
>>> some
>>>> kind of error because the carrier escorts ended up in the
>>> correct
>>>> scenario.  In fact is this even a valid assignment? A carrier
>>> with no
>>>> escorts?
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mike Johnson
>>> <mdjohnson2112 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Lyrans here... I did not bid any ships to this scenario. 
>>> Matt can
>>>>> you tell which ship you are seeing from my fleet?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:15 AM Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama
>>>>> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just a question on this....  It seems like I'm being
>>> penalized
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> though I don't see that any ships were bid by the opponent. 
>>> Is
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> accurate?  Looking below, it does seem like maybe there was
>>>>>> one... so is
>>>>>> it just a "reporting error".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or a tactical error for the "new guy" to piss off his
>>> neighbor
>>>>>> when he
>>>>>> has such a tiny fleet?..... *shrugs* dunno.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (But seriously, was something bid for this and it just didn't
>>>>>> show up
>>>>>> clearly?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dragon Attack #796
>>>>>> The Drewzarian Federation (Federation) has not been
>>> successful in
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> defense.
>>>>>> Defender's reward for successful defense by the Drewzarian
>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>> (Federation): EP60
>>>>>> Defender's penalty for unsuccessful defense: EP-75
>>>>>> Attacker's reward for an unsuccessful defense: EP45
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> INITIAL SET UP
>>>>>> TERRAIN: Class-M planet at 0628
>>>>>> Drewzarian Federation (Federation) PLAYER: No defender's
>>> ships
>>>>>> bid
>>>>>> within two hexes of 0328, speed 10, heading C.
>>>>>> Empire Name (Lyran) PLAYER: A number of Space Dragons
>>> (SM7.46)
>>>>>> set up in
>>>>>> hex 4201 (see below), heading D.
>>>>>> LENGTH OF SCENARIO: The scenario continues until the end of a
>>>>>> turn in
>>>>>> which the dragons have accrued enough ravaging points or
>>> until
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> forces belonging to either player have been destroyed,
>>> captured,
>>>>>> or have
>>>>>> disengaged.
>>>>>> SPECIAL RULES
>>>>>> MAP: Use a floating map. Any unit that is more than 50 hexes
>>> from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> planet is considered to have disengaged by separation (C7.2).
>>>>>> SHUTTLES AND PFs: All shuttles and PFs have warp booster
>>> packs if
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> year selected allows them. Shuttles are advanced types if the
>>>>>> year
>>>>>> selected allows their use.
>>>>>> MRS shuttles may be purchased [up to the limits in (J8.5) ].
>>>>>> If using EW fighters, one fighter in each squadron may be of
>>> this
>>>>>> type.
>>>>>> COMMANDER'S OPTION ITEMS
>>>>>> Each ship can purchase additional or special equipment as
>>>>>> Commander's
>>>>>> Option Items (e.g., T-bombs, extra marines, etc.) up to 20%
>>> of
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> Combat BPV. See (S3.2) for details and exceptions.
>>>>>> All drone speeds and types are available, subject only to the
>>>>>> year
>>>>>> selected for the scenario.
>>>>>> Each drone-armed ship can purchase special drones up to the
>>>>>> historical
>>>>>> racial percentages as part of the Commander's Option Items.
>>> Note
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> (S3.2) allows drone ships extra points for this purpose.
>>>>>> If players wish to use the optional rules for Prime Teams
>>>>>> (G32.0), they
>>>>>> can purchase one team (25 points each) as part of their
>>>>>> Commander's
>>>>>> Options.
>>>>>> SPACE DRAGONS There are a number of Space Dragons equal to
>>> the
>>>>>> number of
>>>>>> ships the Empire Name (Lyran) player bid to the scenario (1
>>>>>> ships). The
>>>>>> total BPV of the Space Dragons is equal to or less than the
>>> total
>>>>>> BPV
>>>>>> assigned by the Empire Name (Lyran) player (206 BPV). The
>>> Empire
>>>>>> Name
>>>>>> (Lyran) player must declare the ages of each Space Dragon
>>> before
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Drewzarian Federation (Federation) player sets up. For each
>>>>>> dragon
>>>>>> killed, the Empire Name (Lyran) player must cripple a ship
>>> that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> assigned to the battle (their choice.)
>>>>>> The Empire Name (Lyran) player has assigned these ships: SR+m
>>> w/
>>>>>> BOB-As
>>>>>> ""
>>>>>> THE SPACE DRAGON SPECIAL RULES:
>>>>>> • Maximum speed is determined by it's wing-health divided
>>> by
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> 'speed' trait. TM is 1. May HET once per turn. May elect to
>>> skip
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> movement it may normally take.
>>>>>> • May be displaced, trapped in web, placed in stasis, but
>>> not
>>>>>> tractored.
>>>>>> • Has a pair of phasers (determined by age) that may fire
>>> every
>>>>>> turn, a
>>>>>> plasma (determined by age) that may fire every second turn,
>>> and a
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> range-0 attack that uses the Morey Eel chart (SM3.46) and
>>> that
>>>>>> may be
>>>>>> used once per turn.
>>>>>> • May identify a single seeking weapon every impulse (range
>>>>>> determined
>>>>>> by age.)
>>>>>> • Up to three times an impulse, the dragon may attempt to
>>> kill
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> shuttle or seeking weapon (including plasma) in it's hex (and
>>>>>> before the
>>>>>> seeker impacts) on a roll of 1-5. When the tail is destroyed,
>>> the
>>>>>> dragon
>>>>>> may no longer perform this.
>>>>>> • For every 32 consecutive impulses spent in the same hex
>>> as
>>>>>> the planet,
>>>>>> the dragon scores it's 'Points for Ravaging' as victory
>>> points
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> Empire Name (Lyran) player.
>>>>>> • Note that according to (D6.397), Space Dragons are not
>>>>>> affected by
>>>>>> electronic warfare.
>>>>>> VICTORY CONDITIONS: Destruction of a Space Dragon counts as
>>> an
>>>>>> amount of
>>>>>> victory points equal to twice the 'Points for Ravaging' that
>>> that
>>>>>> dragon
>>>>>> can inflict. The amount of ravaging points that each Space
>>> Dragon
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> inflicts on the planet, counts as victory points for the
>>> Empire
>>>>>> Name
>>>>>> (Lyran) player. The player with the most victory points wins.
>>>>>> Ties go to
>>>>>> the Drewzarian Federation (Federation) player.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2020-04-20 23:55, Matt via SFBdrama wrote:
>>>>>>> Yay!! We've got pow pow!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --Matt
>>>>>>> 
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