<div dir="ltr">I'm out about 290 points but had to suck it up! Our dungeon master is not good with giving money out 😀 <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 05:49, Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Well, I think it's been established that enough of us have had this <br>
issue so it might not have been a mistake.<br>
<br>
I certainly wouldn't mind a correction if possible since I'm out 75 big <br>
ones... but like I said, I'll be cool with whatever is decided. ;)<br>
<br>
I should note I'm also getting the issue with the ship icons on the <br>
orders screen... Not all of them, but a good chunk of them don't have <br>
images apparently. I never played border wars so I can't really say on <br>
that one.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2020-04-21 19:44, Mike Johnson wrote:<br>
> As this is my maiden voyage it was most likely a mistake on my part<br>
> when I submitted orders. I'm not exactly upset as it results in a<br>
> benefit to me, however I don't really feel like I earned the<br>
> reward. <br>
> <br>
> Matt, if the precedent has been that orders are played as submitted<br>
> regardless of errors I would agree that the current result stands. <br>
> However if corrections have been allowed in the past I think this<br>
> situation should qualify for similar treatment as it was not my<br>
> intent to commit any forces to scenario 796.<br>
> <br>
> -Mike (Lyrans)<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:42 PM Gregory Flusche<br>
> <<a href="mailto:shagrat1960@gmail.com" target="_blank">shagrat1960@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> I have found playing Matts system that sometimes I have placed a<br>
>> ship to a scenario and saved my orders. Then changed my mind and<br>
>> placed it elsewhere but forgot to change my orders and well Ship was<br>
>> not were I thought I sent it. . <br>
>> <br>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:29 PM Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org" target="_blank">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> Ok.. I was starting to think I was just crazy... but I'll be<br>
>>> honest,<br>
>>> I've seen this a few times too.... Where I could swear I bid to a<br>
>>> <br>
>>> scenario, but the ship showed up in another... and I'm like "why<br>
>>> did I<br>
>>> bid a ship to a scenario with a 45ep reward and not the 120ep???"<br>
>>> <br>
>>> This has happened a few times.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Just for the record, I'm perfectly fine with you keeping the win<br>
>>> even if<br>
>>> it was a mistake (or some other error)... I was just confused<br>
>>> that the<br>
>>> ship didn't show up under "Empire Name Lyran" where the bid ships<br>
>>> <br>
>>> usually show up. It only mentions the dragons.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> On 2020-04-21 09:59, Mike Johnson wrote:<br>
>>>> Ok I figured out which ship it is. It is my carrier, this is<br>
>>> some<br>
>>>> kind of error because the carrier escorts ended up in the<br>
>>> correct<br>
>>>> scenario. In fact is this even a valid assignment? A carrier<br>
>>> with no<br>
>>>> escorts?<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mike Johnson<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:mdjohnson2112@gmail.com" target="_blank">mdjohnson2112@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> Lyrans here... I did not bid any ships to this scenario. <br>
>>> Matt can<br>
>>>>> you tell which ship you are seeing from my fleet?<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:15 AM Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org" target="_blank">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Just a question on this.... It seems like I'm being<br>
>>> penalized<br>
>>>>>> even<br>
>>>>>> though I don't see that any ships were bid by the opponent. <br>
>>> Is<br>
>>>>>> this<br>
>>>>>> accurate? Looking below, it does seem like maybe there was<br>
>>>>>> one... so is<br>
>>>>>> it just a "reporting error".<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Or a tactical error for the "new guy" to piss off his<br>
>>> neighbor<br>
>>>>>> when he<br>
>>>>>> has such a tiny fleet?..... *shrugs* dunno.<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> (But seriously, was something bid for this and it just didn't<br>
>>>>>> show up<br>
>>>>>> clearly?)<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Dragon Attack #796<br>
>>>>>> The Drewzarian Federation (Federation) has not been<br>
>>> successful in<br>
>>>>>> their<br>
>>>>>> defense.<br>
>>>>>> Defender's reward for successful defense by the Drewzarian<br>
>>>>>> Federation<br>
>>>>>> (Federation): EP60<br>
>>>>>> Defender's penalty for unsuccessful defense: EP-75<br>
>>>>>> Attacker's reward for an unsuccessful defense: EP45<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> INITIAL SET UP<br>
>>>>>> TERRAIN: Class-M planet at 0628<br>
>>>>>> Drewzarian Federation (Federation) PLAYER: No defender's<br>
>>> ships<br>
>>>>>> bid<br>
>>>>>> within two hexes of 0328, speed 10, heading C.<br>
>>>>>> Empire Name (Lyran) PLAYER: A number of Space Dragons<br>
>>> (SM7.46)<br>
>>>>>> set up in<br>
>>>>>> hex 4201 (see below), heading D.<br>
>>>>>> LENGTH OF SCENARIO: The scenario continues until the end of a<br>
>>>>>> turn in<br>
>>>>>> which the dragons have accrued enough ravaging points or<br>
>>> until<br>
>>>>>> all<br>
>>>>>> forces belonging to either player have been destroyed,<br>
>>> captured,<br>
>>>>>> or have<br>
>>>>>> disengaged.<br>
>>>>>> SPECIAL RULES<br>
>>>>>> MAP: Use a floating map. Any unit that is more than 50 hexes<br>
>>> from<br>
>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>> planet is considered to have disengaged by separation (C7.2).<br>
>>>>>> SHUTTLES AND PFs: All shuttles and PFs have warp booster<br>
>>> packs if<br>
>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>> year selected allows them. Shuttles are advanced types if the<br>
>>>>>> year<br>
>>>>>> selected allows their use.<br>
>>>>>> MRS shuttles may be purchased [up to the limits in (J8.5) ].<br>
>>>>>> If using EW fighters, one fighter in each squadron may be of<br>
>>> this<br>
>>>>>> type.<br>
>>>>>> COMMANDER'S OPTION ITEMS<br>
>>>>>> Each ship can purchase additional or special equipment as<br>
>>>>>> Commander's<br>
>>>>>> Option Items (e.g., T-bombs, extra marines, etc.) up to 20%<br>
>>> of<br>
>>>>>> its<br>
>>>>>> Combat BPV. See (S3.2) for details and exceptions.<br>
>>>>>> All drone speeds and types are available, subject only to the<br>
>>>>>> year<br>
>>>>>> selected for the scenario.<br>
>>>>>> Each drone-armed ship can purchase special drones up to the<br>
>>>>>> historical<br>
>>>>>> racial percentages as part of the Commander's Option Items.<br>
>>> Note<br>
>>>>>> that<br>
>>>>>> (S3.2) allows drone ships extra points for this purpose.<br>
>>>>>> If players wish to use the optional rules for Prime Teams<br>
>>>>>> (G32.0), they<br>
>>>>>> can purchase one team (25 points each) as part of their<br>
>>>>>> Commander's<br>
>>>>>> Options.<br>
>>>>>> SPACE DRAGONS There are a number of Space Dragons equal to<br>
>>> the<br>
>>>>>> number of<br>
>>>>>> ships the Empire Name (Lyran) player bid to the scenario (1<br>
>>>>>> ships). The<br>
>>>>>> total BPV of the Space Dragons is equal to or less than the<br>
>>> total<br>
>>>>>> BPV<br>
>>>>>> assigned by the Empire Name (Lyran) player (206 BPV). The<br>
>>> Empire<br>
>>>>>> Name<br>
>>>>>> (Lyran) player must declare the ages of each Space Dragon<br>
>>> before<br>
>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>> Drewzarian Federation (Federation) player sets up. For each<br>
>>>>>> dragon<br>
>>>>>> killed, the Empire Name (Lyran) player must cripple a ship<br>
>>> that<br>
>>>>>> they<br>
>>>>>> assigned to the battle (their choice.)<br>
>>>>>> The Empire Name (Lyran) player has assigned these ships: SR+m<br>
>>> w/<br>
>>>>>> BOB-As<br>
>>>>>> ""<br>
>>>>>> THE SPACE DRAGON SPECIAL RULES:<br>
>>>>>> • Maximum speed is determined by it's wing-health divided<br>
>>> by<br>
>>>>>> it's<br>
>>>>>> 'speed' trait. TM is 1. May HET once per turn. May elect to<br>
>>> skip<br>
>>>>>> any<br>
>>>>>> movement it may normally take.<br>
>>>>>> • May be displaced, trapped in web, placed in stasis, but<br>
>>> not<br>
>>>>>> tractored.<br>
>>>>>> • Has a pair of phasers (determined by age) that may fire<br>
>>> every<br>
>>>>>> turn, a<br>
>>>>>> plasma (determined by age) that may fire every second turn,<br>
>>> and a<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> range-0 attack that uses the Morey Eel chart (SM3.46) and<br>
>>> that<br>
>>>>>> may be<br>
>>>>>> used once per turn.<br>
>>>>>> • May identify a single seeking weapon every impulse (range<br>
>>>>>> determined<br>
>>>>>> by age.)<br>
>>>>>> • Up to three times an impulse, the dragon may attempt to<br>
>>> kill<br>
>>>>>> any<br>
>>>>>> shuttle or seeking weapon (including plasma) in it's hex (and<br>
>>>>>> before the<br>
>>>>>> seeker impacts) on a roll of 1-5. When the tail is destroyed,<br>
>>> the<br>
>>>>>> dragon<br>
>>>>>> may no longer perform this.<br>
>>>>>> • For every 32 consecutive impulses spent in the same hex<br>
>>> as<br>
>>>>>> the planet,<br>
>>>>>> the dragon scores it's 'Points for Ravaging' as victory<br>
>>> points<br>
>>>>>> for the<br>
>>>>>> Empire Name (Lyran) player.<br>
>>>>>> • Note that according to (D6.397), Space Dragons are not<br>
>>>>>> affected by<br>
>>>>>> electronic warfare.<br>
>>>>>> VICTORY CONDITIONS: Destruction of a Space Dragon counts as<br>
>>> an<br>
>>>>>> amount of<br>
>>>>>> victory points equal to twice the 'Points for Ravaging' that<br>
>>> that<br>
>>>>>> dragon<br>
>>>>>> can inflict. The amount of ravaging points that each Space<br>
>>> Dragon<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> inflicts on the planet, counts as victory points for the<br>
>>> Empire<br>
>>>>>> Name<br>
>>>>>> (Lyran) player. The player with the most victory points wins.<br>
>>>>>> Ties go to<br>
>>>>>> the Drewzarian Federation (Federation) player.<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> On 2020-04-20 23:55, Matt via SFBdrama wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> Yay!! We've got pow pow!<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>> --Matt<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
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