Dramatic SFB: Age of PFs

Tue Apr 21 16:44:51 PDT 2020

As this is my maiden voyage it was most likely a mistake on my part when I
submitted orders.  I'm not exactly upset as it results in a benefit to me,
however I don't really feel like I earned the reward.

Matt, if the precedent has been that orders are played as submitted
regardless of errors I would agree that the current result stands.  However
if corrections have been allowed in the past I think this situation should
qualify for similar treatment as it was not my intent to commit any forces
to scenario 796.

-Mike (Lyrans)

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:42 PM Gregory Flusche <shagrat1960 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have found playing Matts system that sometimes I have placed a ship to a
> scenario and saved my orders. Then changed my mind and placed it elsewhere
> but forgot to change my orders and well Ship was not were I thought I sent
> it. .
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:29 PM Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Ok.. I was starting to think I was just crazy... but I'll be honest,
>> I've seen this a few times too.... Where I could swear I bid to a
>> scenario, but the ship showed up in another... and I'm like "why did I
>> bid a ship to a scenario with a 45ep reward and not the 120ep???"
>>
>> This has happened a few times.
>>
>> Just for the record, I'm perfectly fine with you keeping the win even if
>> it was a mistake (or some other error)... I was just confused that the
>> ship didn't show up under "Empire Name Lyran" where the bid ships
>> usually show up.  It only mentions the dragons.
>>
>> On 2020-04-21 09:59, Mike Johnson wrote:
>> > Ok I figured out which ship it is.  It is my carrier, this is some
>> > kind of error because the carrier escorts ended up in the correct
>> > scenario.  In fact is this even a valid assignment? A carrier with no
>> > escorts?
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mike Johnson <mdjohnson2112 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Lyrans here... I did not bid any ships to this scenario.  Matt can
>> >> you tell which ship you are seeing from my fleet?
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:15 AM Drew Klenotic via SFBdrama
>> >> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just a question on this....  It seems like I'm being penalized
>> >>> even
>> >>> though I don't see that any ships were bid by the opponent.  Is
>> >>> this
>> >>> accurate?  Looking below, it does seem like maybe there was
>> >>> one... so is
>> >>> it just a "reporting error".
>> >>>
>> >>> Or a tactical error for the "new guy" to piss off his neighbor
>> >>> when he
>> >>> has such a tiny fleet?..... *shrugs* dunno.
>> >>>
>> >>> (But seriously, was something bid for this and it just didn't
>> >>> show up
>> >>> clearly?)
>> >>>
>> >>> Dragon Attack #796
>> >>> The Drewzarian Federation (Federation) has not been successful in
>> >>> their
>> >>> defense.
>> >>> Defender's reward for successful defense by the Drewzarian
>> >>> Federation
>> >>> (Federation): EP60
>> >>> Defender's penalty for unsuccessful defense: EP-75
>> >>> Attacker's reward for an unsuccessful defense: EP45
>> >>>
>> >>> INITIAL SET UP
>> >>> TERRAIN: Class-M planet at 0628
>> >>> Drewzarian Federation (Federation) PLAYER: No defender's ships
>> >>> bid
>> >>> within two hexes of 0328, speed 10, heading C.
>> >>> Empire Name (Lyran) PLAYER: A number of Space Dragons (SM7.46)
>> >>> set up in
>> >>> hex 4201 (see below), heading D.
>> >>> LENGTH OF SCENARIO: The scenario continues until the end of a
>> >>> turn in
>> >>> which the dragons have accrued enough ravaging points or until
>> >>> all
>> >>> forces belonging to either player have been destroyed, captured,
>> >>> or have
>> >>> disengaged.
>> >>> SPECIAL RULES
>> >>> MAP: Use a floating map. Any unit that is more than 50 hexes from
>> >>> the
>> >>> planet is considered to have disengaged by separation (C7.2).
>> >>> SHUTTLES AND PFs: All shuttles and PFs have warp booster packs if
>> >>> the
>> >>> year selected allows them. Shuttles are advanced types if the
>> >>> year
>> >>> selected allows their use.
>> >>> MRS shuttles may be purchased [up to the limits in (J8.5) ].
>> >>> If using EW fighters, one fighter in each squadron may be of this
>> >>> type.
>> >>> COMMANDER'S OPTION ITEMS
>> >>> Each ship can purchase additional or special equipment as
>> >>> Commander's
>> >>> Option Items (e.g., T-bombs, extra marines, etc.) up to 20% of
>> >>> its
>> >>> Combat BPV. See (S3.2) for details and exceptions.
>> >>> All drone speeds and types are available, subject only to the
>> >>> year
>> >>> selected for the scenario.
>> >>> Each drone-armed ship can purchase special drones up to the
>> >>> historical
>> >>> racial percentages as part of the Commander's Option Items. Note
>> >>> that
>> >>> (S3.2) allows drone ships extra points for this purpose.
>> >>> If players wish to use the optional rules for Prime Teams
>> >>> (G32.0), they
>> >>> can purchase one team (25 points each) as part of their
>> >>> Commander's
>> >>> Options.
>> >>> SPACE DRAGONS There are a number of Space Dragons equal to the
>> >>> number of
>> >>> ships the Empire Name (Lyran) player bid to the scenario (1
>> >>> ships). The
>> >>> total BPV of the Space Dragons is equal to or less than the total
>> >>> BPV
>> >>> assigned by the Empire Name (Lyran) player (206 BPV). The Empire
>> >>> Name
>> >>> (Lyran) player must declare the ages of each Space Dragon before
>> >>> the
>> >>> Drewzarian Federation (Federation) player sets up. For each
>> >>> dragon
>> >>> killed, the Empire Name (Lyran) player must cripple a ship that
>> >>> they
>> >>> assigned to the battle (their choice.)
>> >>> The Empire Name (Lyran) player has assigned these ships: SR+m w/
>> >>> BOB-As
>> >>> ""
>> >>> THE SPACE DRAGON SPECIAL RULES:
>> >>> • Maximum speed is determined by it's wing-health divided by
>> >>> it's
>> >>> 'speed' trait. TM is 1. May HET once per turn. May elect to skip
>> >>> any
>> >>> movement it may normally take.
>> >>> • May be displaced, trapped in web, placed in stasis, but not
>> >>> tractored.
>> >>> • Has a pair of phasers (determined by age) that may fire every
>> >>> turn, a
>> >>> plasma (determined by age) that may fire every second turn, and a
>> >>>
>> >>> range-0 attack that uses the Morey Eel chart (SM3.46) and that
>> >>> may be
>> >>> used once per turn.
>> >>> • May identify a single seeking weapon every impulse (range
>> >>> determined
>> >>> by age.)
>> >>> • Up to three times an impulse, the dragon may attempt to kill
>> >>> any
>> >>> shuttle or seeking weapon (including plasma) in it's hex (and
>> >>> before the
>> >>> seeker impacts) on a roll of 1-5. When the tail is destroyed, the
>> >>> dragon
>> >>> may no longer perform this.
>> >>> • For every 32 consecutive impulses spent in the same hex as
>> >>> the planet,
>> >>> the dragon scores it's 'Points for Ravaging' as victory points
>> >>> for the
>> >>> Empire Name (Lyran) player.
>> >>> • Note that according to (D6.397), Space Dragons are not
>> >>> affected by
>> >>> electronic warfare.
>> >>> VICTORY CONDITIONS: Destruction of a Space Dragon counts as an
>> >>> amount of
>> >>> victory points equal to twice the 'Points for Ravaging' that that
>> >>> dragon
>> >>> can inflict. The amount of ravaging points that each Space Dragon
>> >>>
>> >>> inflicts on the planet, counts as victory points for the Empire
>> >>> Name
>> >>> (Lyran) player. The player with the most victory points wins.
>> >>> Ties go to
>> >>> the Drewzarian Federation (Federation) player.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2020-04-20 23:55, Matt via SFBdrama wrote:
>> >>>> Yay!! We've got pow pow!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --Matt
>> >>>>
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