Dramatic SFB: Defender looses border missions

[Randy Blair]

Concur with my peers.
Noborder results penalize both players.
Also, this campaign has no real victory conditions.

On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 3:45 PM Don Lavanty via SFBdrama <
sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org wrote:

> my main thoughts were on the reason's people want to loose borders
> There are only 2 reason right now to try and "win" (or deliberately loose)
> a loss of border fight
> 1) remove a race/player either race is the paper to your rock (or the
> player is)
> 2) reduce the number of borders so you can concentrate your fleet more
>
> as right now its a double penalty to the attacker and defender.
> by pushing one player to elimination you are pushing yourself to the same
> fate.
>
> The ultimate solution of the game is the elimination of the other players.
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 2:57 PM Charles Carroll <mastrvran at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It could help, because something needs to be done. But realistically. The
>> defender...rarely has to defend as things stand now.
>>
>> When determining what to attack...the attacker has to think in most of
>> these. Well I can attack here. And if I win I get 30? For the win. Maybe
>> lose a ship. Which is worth more than 30. Definitely lose a border of my
>> own. Which means all future income is gone. Hmmmmm.....what should I do.
>>
>> Oh look...there is a fight were I get income and still have a border
>> left. That is where I will go.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 2:52 PM Gregory Flusche via SFBdrama <
>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes if the attacker gains a new border with a different race then the
>>> defender and the defender losses a border. This would force the defender to
>>> fight those battles
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 1:28 PM Don Lavanty via SFBdrama <
>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lol I appologize for my fat thumbing (emailing on phone)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 1:21 PM Don Lavanty via SFBdrama <
>>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I have been thinking about these missions and both sides do not want
>>>>> this so all of them are being avoided as neither side wants the loss of
>>>>> income. M
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest the following change to add to the pot so to speak
>>>>>
>>>>> Defender nothing really changes
>>>>> Defender looses border pushinging them towards elimination.
>>>>>
>>>>> Attacker: newborder
>>>>> Improve the economic gain for the attacker
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