Dramatic SFB: Finishing Fleet Build

[Charles Carroll]

As has been mentioned...No Border is a deterrent to fight for everyone
involved. Because of game mechanics where you need income to build ships
and you are saying...hey lets go out and blow up our factory that makes the
money we use to build ships. Yeah that will help us a lot??? So no one
fights those fights. The way this plays...it is just a really bad choice.
If that was required to win in someway....where it meant you got free
income...and they lost all income until they retook the site then sure. But
this just kills everyone's income. And unless you lose all borders. It just
slows you down but concentrates your forces. So after a while no one can
bother you and you re-expand.

But as Marcel mentioned...hit them in a real fashion that does not cripple
you to do so. Severe penalties for not winning defense situations. Which is
what actually happens in War...you cannot cut a path into the enemy as they
cut a path into you....passing in the night. You have to hold ground to
win. And expand. Making it where someone you are fighting loses a border
just means everyone lost for a benefit of? Nothing. And a permanent lose of
income with no way to get it back if ever.

Chuck

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 2:25 PM Marcel Trahan via SFBdrama <
sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:

> And if you get to the point of negative EP for a turn, then, you have to
> scrap ships equivalent to the negative EP.
>
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 12:30 PM Marcel Trahan <marcel.trahan91 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, lots of no border scenarios.
>>
>> I would have rather seen more scenarios with a big negative EP instead
>> for the defender and a good positive EP for the attacker. More like:
>>
>>
>> *Defender's reward for successful defense:* EP40
>> *Defender's penalty for unsuccessful defense:* EP-80
>> *Attacker's reward for an unsuccessful defense:* EP80
>>
>> That would force some combat for those EP. You either defending it well
>> or it might hurt you and as an attacker, gaining 80 EP while technicaly
>> removing 120 EP from the defender is a good options.
>> This would hurt/benefit EP's without the penalities of closing border
>> (where you both hurt the enemy and yoursefl)
>>
>> Border/no Border is not the proper way to go i think.
>>
>> Kronos High Command
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 4:05 PM Gregory Flusche via SFBdrama <
>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> One of the things being talked about was a more definite victory
>>> condition. The More no border penalties is a way of closing off the other
>>> players borders. To end a game faster. Again however closing borders closes
>>> yours as well.. perhaps a close border and open new border scenario. Thus
>>> You close some ones and get a new one?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 11:55 AM Francois Lemay via SFBdrama <
>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peaceful ISC ready to spread Peace amongst the galaxy
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>> On ‎Saturday‎, ‎December‎ ‎22‎, ‎2018‎ ‎06‎:‎33‎:‎52‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EST, Paul
>>>> Meyer via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Empire of the Rising Swamp is RTA
>>>>
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