Dramatic SFB: Hidden mines

Pat Hogan hazelnut1968 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 11 15:45:54 PDT 2018


I agree.  While there are certain options and things I would do slightly differently if I was running a campaign; I’m not running this one.  I accepted the rules and live and die by them.  😀

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> On Jun 11, 2018, at 17:18, TJ Hooker via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
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> Not sure this is up for a vote, i don't really like hidden mines either.. that being said you have entered an established campaign where the rules were also established. The game interface does allow for accurate tracking and placement of the hidden mines from the shuttle bay and you can be sure that your opponent is being literally forced to place them via the interface so there is no room for error or "meta-gaming" (aka cheating). Your assertion you MUST now track every hex and every impulse is also simply untrue, having played and watched several scenarios I can tell you it is only relevant at certain times. 
> 
> I personally like narrow salvos.. many do not. You used that rule, perhaps all of your opponents should let you know upfront that they wont be using it and would strongly prefer that you not use it either Ben? I would also lobby for energy balance due to damage... that we include that rule as well, as I like it, but then again, I entered an established campaign where I agreed, when I joined, to the rules, including the optional rules. I think the rules are available on the website the the admins are also readily available. Maybe just give it a try instead of walking in the door trying to change the campaign rules? Its not that bad.. :)
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> On Monday, June 11, 2018, 1:19:14 PM PDT, Randy Blair via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
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> Every game I've played includes them.
> SFBOL takes care of them just fine.
> 
> I vote to keep them.
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> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 3:47 PM Ben Sh via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
> I was just surprised to find out that the campaign was using hidden mine placement.
> 
> This is an optional rule that I have never seen included in any SFB game in the 35 odd years I have played. 
> 
> It is, imho, an absolutely terrible rule. It requires tracking every hex every opponent's ship has passed through and the turn/impulse it left that hex. Ugggg!!!
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> I propose that this rule be removed from the campaign rules.
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> It adds nothing to the "space combat" game this is supposed to be. The game is already extremely complicated, so much so that it is hard to get a new player to play. Why make it worse for so little tactical gain?
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> For now, I request that any opponents I play and I refrain from hidden mine placement during our games, as, of course, I will.
> 
> Thanks for reading my rant.
> 
> Ben Shove
> Drago Astro
> 
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