Dramatic SFB: Drone speeds and BPV

Gregory Flusche shagrat1960 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 1 15:55:45 PST 2017


What I am saying with all the Things Matt has programmed in there are and
is bound to be some  minor mistakes, For me those little things can be over
looked :)

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Gregory Flusche <shagrat1960 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Note as i sent to Matt my Paravian CC costs 133 with the APR refit. My CA
> should cost 122. Nope as there was a mistype in the cost it reads 133. Mind
> you it is no big deal to me at all. Matt will fix on the next upgrade.
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Boyd Steere via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi, David:
>>
>> I've seen the same thing in the BPV costs for drone speed upgrades, and
>> you can imagine that this has more impact on a Kzinti player.  Long story
>> short: after running the numbers, I'm not too worried about it.
>>
>> With an average of 20 drone spaces per Y175+ Kzinti cruiser or destroyer,
>> my medium-drone-speed ships cost about 10 BPV more than they should.  If my
>> average ship costs 100 BPV, that's a 10% ding to my empire's buying power.
>> For races like the Klingons, with 2 racks per ~120 BPV cruiser and 1 per
>> ~90 BPV F5 variant, the higher BPV prices are about a 4% average ding to
>> their economy.
>>
>> From my conversations with Matt, he's appreciative of BPV accuracy.  But
>> among the Kzinti, Klingons, Wyns, Frax, Feds, etc. there are thousands of
>> ship variants that have drone speed upgrade costs built into their BPV's,
>> and each of them were manually calculated and entered when the database was
>> created.  At this point it would be no mean feat to recalculate them and
>> rebuild the campaign game engine.
>>
>> In light of the difficultly of fixing things, I'm not going to sweat a
>> 10% hit to my economy.  If anything, I think about it as compensation for
>> my patient opponents who have to wait for me to move dozens of extra
>> counters around in a big battle.
>>
>> - Boyd (pyrAmider)
>> Territorial Marking Fleet of Cheeth-Sub-Admiral
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:37 AM David via SFBdrama <
>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm just about ready, just have one question on BPVs
>>>
>>>
>>> Question on the BPVs for construction:
>>> A G2 has a BPV of 46 and has two A racks with 8 spaces of drones. Medium
>>> speed upgrades cost 1/2 point per space so that would add 4 to the cost.
>>> Total cost would be 50. The listed cost is 54
>>> A G2y has a BPV of 50 and has two B racks with 12 spaces of drones. 50 +
>>> 6 = 56. Listed cost is 62.
>>> The difference really gets significant with the E4Dy which carries 24
>>> drones suggesting a cost of 67+12=79 vs listed 91.
>>>
>>> Do I have the speed costs for drone upgrades wrong or are these actually
>>> fast drone costs or something else?
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