Dramatic SFB: Age of PFs Orders

Fri Sep 11 18:31:13 PDT 2020

Paravian Black Crows are RTA

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 3:50 PM Paul Graves <paulgraves at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> The ISC scenarios are all self resolved except:
>
> Rom - Empire of the Sun:
>     Colony Raid #2068:            ISC overwhelming force (something like
> 955 v 595).  - unless I hear otherwise I'm assuming Rom withdrawal.
>     A Very Special Ally #2073:  Moderate Rom advantage  - I'm content to
> withdraw for a Rom victory.
>
> Peladine - Magistrorum Militum:
>     Probe Recovery #2199:    I'm fine with Wayne disengaging.
>
> Fed - Drewzarian Fed:
>     Organian Treaty Colony #2208:  ISC massive overwhelming force -
> presuming Fed withdrawal.
>
> Grim - ISC.
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 11, 2020, 08:44:42 AM PDT, Wayne Power via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>
>
> Peladine update Scenario 2188,
>
> Peladine lost the DW "Yayoi", the Klingon lost the F5K, and the F5D, and
> F5L both crippled, the FRD undamaged, DW "Ekron", and FFS "Yamatai"
> disengaged (Klingon win).
>
> A good game with Brents Klingons, a well fought battle.
>
>
> Peladine scenario 2199 vs the ISC,
>
> I am going to try to disengage from gathering probes on the ISC front (I
> am happy to do the battle using Matts alternative combat system).
>
> On Tuesday, 8 September 2020, 07:44:24 pm AEST, Majead Farsi <
> majeadfarsi at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> yep! That one I will get my ass kicked to the otherside of the galaxy!
> Well outgunned and even on an equal fleet very difficult to stop u from
> getting 1 ship there for 1 impulse!
> The freighter one is more of an equal battle but you are up there too! I'm
> trying to see if there is any way to save the freighters as they are so
> slow and your QWT will catch them for certain! Not looking good for those
> Freighter captains 😀
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 09:16, Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yeah for that fight I need to seriously evaluate if its worth it.
>
> I am game for the Freighter one, I was very surprised you fit a carrier in
> with the move/side limitation I think I have the upper hand in that fight
> but I am not sure by how much. you have an actual squadron of 8 vs my
> casual 6(3x2) plus the interceptors.
>  assume you are exiting stage left on the overwhelming.
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 5:06 AM Majead Farsi <majeadfarsi at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> More like 300 more than yours! I will be fighting this one! As I'm well up
> here in fire power! Encounter #2116 I'm not fighting that one as I'm well
> outgunned!! #2115 I'm still debating if there is a way of saving the
> freighters. will let you know on that one!
>
> Majead
>
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 08:38, Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Trust me I find fighting Carnivon's very dangerous those disruptor cannons
> are nasty. His force does include a CV group but I have 6 interceptors
> included
>
> Carnivon have
> CWL, 2xCW, CWB, DWS,  2xDWA, CVS 12 fighters(JK-4 & HY-3), ISC CC w// int's
> vs my Paravian
> CWL, 3xCW, RMS w/ 2p-b&p-sd w/ ints, BCH w/ Ints, DWL w/ int's
>
>
>
> his force is at least 100bp more than mine.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 2:52 AM Wayne Power via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>
>
> You would need to battle in a fleet, with some heavy ships, to take that
> Paravian force on.
> On Monday, 7 September 2020, 09:38:20 am AEST, Gregory Flusche via
> SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>
>
> Yes looks legal to me as well
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:09 PM Matt via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>
>
> > He has a total of 7 ships with 4 command type/ Leader equivalent ships
> > ( they have Flag bridges etc!). Is this Fleet legal or has he got too
> > many leaders/ Command ships. His ships are :
> > CWL, CW, CW, CW, RMS (with 3 pods), BCH, DWL.
> > To be honest it's the DWL that looks as if it should not be there by
> > itself as there are no SC 4 ships to lead!
>
>
> Flag bridge does not necessarily make it a leader variant. For example,
> starbases (S8.27) and some Lyran ships (R11.5). Even leader variants
> don't always have flag bridge - see most DWLs and FLGs. As near as I
> figure, leader variants are marked as such only on the SSD (though
> looking at higher-than-normal Command Ratings for the class can be an
> indicator. Unfortunately, that also captures some PFTs and carriers.)
> See (S8.36); it begins with the most complete definition of a leader
> variant that is off the top of my head.
>
>
> The RMS (regardless of the number of pods) counts as a Size-Class 2
> ship. As such, it counts under (S8.331). One would think that (S8.363)
> applies to keep it from being considered as a leader, but the RMS is
> actually a dreadnaught-sized tug variant - which is still not a leader
> variant. (note that the tug pods are never applied against a flagship's
> command rating.)
>
>
> The BCH very much is under (S8.333). This also excludes it from being
> considered a leader variant. This also allows the BCH to be included,
> specifically regardless of the inclusion of a Size-Class 2 unit.
>
>
> So per (S8.36), the consideration of leader variants falls to the CWL
> and the DWL. The CWL is leading a full squadron of CWs, allowing the DWL
> to be included under (S8.361).
>
>
> The above fleet appears legal to me.
>
> --Matt
>
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