Dramatic SFB: Age of PFs Orders

Fri Sep 11 12:47:51 PDT 2020

 The ISC scenarios are all self resolved except:
Rom - Empire of the Sun:    Colony Raid #2068:            ISC overwhelming force (something like 955 v 595).  - unless I hear otherwise I'm assuming Rom withdrawal.
    A Very Special Ally #2073:  Moderate Rom advantage  - I'm content to withdraw for a Rom victory.
Peladine - Magistrorum Militum:        Probe Recovery #2199:    I'm fine with Wayne disengaging.

Fed - Drewzarian Fed:    Organian Treaty Colony #2208:  ISC massive overwhelming force - presuming Fed withdrawal.

Grim - ISC.

    On Friday, September 11, 2020, 08:44:42 AM PDT, Wayne Power via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:  

  Peladine update Scenario 2188,
Peladine lost the DW "Yayoi", the Klingon lost the F5K, and the F5D, and F5L both crippled, the FRD undamaged, DW "Ekron", and FFS "Yamatai" disengaged (Klingon win).
A good game with Brents Klingons, a well fought battle.

Peladine scenario 2199 vs the ISC,
I am going to try to disengage from gathering probes on the ISC front (I am happy to do the battle using Matts alternative combat system).
    On Tuesday, 8 September 2020, 07:44:24 pm AEST, Majead Farsi <majeadfarsi at googlemail.com> wrote:  

 yep! That one I will get my ass kicked to the otherside of the galaxy! Well outgunned and even on an equal fleet very difficult to stop u from getting 1 ship there for 1 impulse!The freighter one is more of an equal battle but you are up there too! I'm trying to see if there is any way to save the freighters as they are so slow and your QWT will catch them for certain! Not looking good for those Freighter captains 😀

On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 09:16, Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com> wrote:

yeah for that fight I need to seriously evaluate if its worth it.
I am game for the Freighter one, I was very surprised you fit a carrier in with the move/side limitation I think I have the upper hand in that fight but I am not sure by how much. you have an actual squadron of 8 vs my casual 6(3x2) plus the interceptors. assume you are exiting stage left on the overwhelming.
On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 5:06 AM Majead Farsi <majeadfarsi at googlemail.com> wrote:

More like 300 more than yours! I will be fighting this one! As I'm well up here in fire power! Encounter #2116 I'm not fighting that one as I'm well outgunned!! #2115 I'm still debating if there is a way of saving the freighters. will let you know on that one!
Majead

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 08:38, Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com> wrote:

Trust me I find fighting Carnivon's very dangerous those disruptor cannons are nasty. His force does include a CV group but I have 6 interceptors included
Carnivon haveCWL, 2xCW, CWB, DWS,  2xDWA, CVS 12 fighters(JK-4 & HY-3), ISC CC w// int'svs my ParavianCWL, 3xCW, RMS w/ 2p-b&p-sd w/ ints, BCH w/ Ints, DWL w/ int's

his force is at least 100bp more than mine.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 2:52 AM Wayne Power via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:

You would need to battle in a fleet, with some heavy ships, to take that Paravian force on.     On Monday, 7 September 2020, 09:38:20 am AEST, Gregory Flusche via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:  

 Yes looks legal to me as well 
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:09 PM Matt via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:

> He has a total of 7 ships with 4 command type/ Leader equivalent ships 
> ( they have Flag bridges etc!). Is this Fleet legal or has he got too 
> many leaders/ Command ships. His ships are :
> CWL, CW, CW, CW, RMS (with 3 pods), BCH, DWL.
> To be honest it's the DWL that looks as if it should not be there by 
> itself as there are no SC 4 ships to lead!

Flag bridge does not necessarily make it a leader variant. For example, 
starbases (S8.27) and some Lyran ships (R11.5). Even leader variants 
don't always have flag bridge - see most DWLs and FLGs. As near as I 
figure, leader variants are marked as such only on the SSD (though 
looking at higher-than-normal Command Ratings for the class can be an 
indicator. Unfortunately, that also captures some PFTs and carriers.) 
See (S8.36); it begins with the most complete definition of a leader 
variant that is off the top of my head.

The RMS (regardless of the number of pods) counts as a Size-Class 2 
ship. As such, it counts under (S8.331). One would think that (S8.363) 
applies to keep it from being considered as a leader, but the RMS is 
actually a dreadnaught-sized tug variant - which is still not a leader 
variant. (note that the tug pods are never applied against a flagship's 
command rating.)

The BCH very much is under (S8.333). This also excludes it from being 
considered a leader variant. This also allows the BCH to be included, 
specifically regardless of the inclusion of a Size-Class 2 unit.

So per (S8.36), the consideration of leader variants falls to the CWL 
and the DWL. The CWL is leading a full squadron of CWs, allowing the DWL 
to be included under (S8.361).

The above fleet appears legal to me.

--Matt

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