Dramatic SFB: Age of PFs Orders

[Don Lavanty]

yeah for that fight I need to seriously evaluate if its worth it.

I am game for the Freighter one, I was very surprised you fit a carrier in
with the move/side limitation I think I have the upper hand in that fight
but I am not sure by how much. you have an actual squadron of 8 vs my
casual 6(3x2) plus the interceptors.
 assume you are exiting stage left on the overwhelming.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 5:06 AM Majead Farsi <majeadfarsi at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> More like 300 more than yours! I will be fighting this one! As I'm well up
> here in fire power! Encounter #2116 I'm not fighting that one as I'm well
> outgunned!! #2115 I'm still debating if there is a way of saving the
> freighters. will let you know on that one!
>
> Majead
>
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 08:38, Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Trust me I find fighting Carnivon's very dangerous those disruptor
>> cannons are nasty. His force does include a CV group but I have 6
>> interceptors included
>>
>> Carnivon have
>> CWL, 2xCW, CWB, DWS,  2xDWA, CVS 12 fighters(JK-4 & HY-3), ISC CC w//
>> int's
>> vs my Paravian
>> CWL, 3xCW, RMS w/ 2p-b&p-sd w/ ints, BCH w/ Ints, DWL w/ int's
>>
>>
>>
>> his force is at least 100bp more than mine.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 2:52 AM Wayne Power via SFBdrama <
>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You would need to battle in a fleet, with some heavy ships, to take that
>>> Paravian force on.
>>> On Monday, 7 September 2020, 09:38:20 am AEST, Gregory Flusche via
>>> SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes looks legal to me as well
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:09 PM Matt via SFBdrama <
>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > He has a total of 7 ships with 4 command type/ Leader equivalent ships
>>> > ( they have Flag bridges etc!). Is this Fleet legal or has he got too
>>> > many leaders/ Command ships. His ships are :
>>> > CWL, CW, CW, CW, RMS (with 3 pods), BCH, DWL.
>>> > To be honest it's the DWL that looks as if it should not be there by
>>> > itself as there are no SC 4 ships to lead!
>>>
>>>
>>> Flag bridge does not necessarily make it a leader variant. For example,
>>> starbases (S8.27) and some Lyran ships (R11.5). Even leader variants
>>> don't always have flag bridge - see most DWLs and FLGs. As near as I
>>> figure, leader variants are marked as such only on the SSD (though
>>> looking at higher-than-normal Command Ratings for the class can be an
>>> indicator. Unfortunately, that also captures some PFTs and carriers.)
>>> See (S8.36); it begins with the most complete definition of a leader
>>> variant that is off the top of my head.
>>>
>>>
>>> The RMS (regardless of the number of pods) counts as a Size-Class 2
>>> ship. As such, it counts under (S8.331). One would think that (S8.363)
>>> applies to keep it from being considered as a leader, but the RMS is
>>> actually a dreadnaught-sized tug variant - which is still not a leader
>>> variant. (note that the tug pods are never applied against a flagship's
>>> command rating.)
>>>
>>>
>>> The BCH very much is under (S8.333). This also excludes it from being
>>> considered a leader variant. This also allows the BCH to be included,
>>> specifically regardless of the inclusion of a Size-Class 2 unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> So per (S8.36), the consideration of leader variants falls to the CWL
>>> and the DWL. The CWL is leading a full squadron of CWs, allowing the DWL
>>> to be included under (S8.361).
>>>
>>>
>>> The above fleet appears legal to me.
>>>
>>> --Matt
>>>
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