Dramatic SFB: ISC player

Fri Jul 19 15:31:11 PDT 2019

ok, that will put me ready to advance. Yeah  I am a little out of practice
my self. a DN needs 2 escorts but with your fleet it would go over the PPD
limit so the DN can't fight. and the 3 cruisers still are above PPD limit
which brings you to 2 and all the interceptors.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 3:56 PM Nicholas Steere <steerenicholas at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I've set CA-sab ICS Infinite as destroyed and saved my orders. I'm sorry I
> missed the discussion, I haven't played ISC in a very long time, so a lot
> of the rules about campaign fleet compositions and such I've just
> completely forgotten unfortunately.
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:35 AM Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> looks like I accidentally lost part of my message. If the attacker rolls
>> WS 0 or 1 the defender can generally get to speed before any plasmas are
>> armed. otherwise, you are going speed 0-10 dodging speed 32/40 plasma's
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:13 AM Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There was at least a weeks worth of discussion about your fleet which I
>>> guess you missed somehow. The result was your fleet had the DN and one of
>>> the other CA's not present to not violate the ISC PPD rules and DN escort
>>> rules I am not sure how you missed it. I mentioned many times I was
>>> pressing the fight hell I was thinking of pressing it a bit just to cripple
>>> a ship if possible. It's not often you fight against stationary targets.  I
>>> didn't have your direct e-mail so I tried to reach out via sfbdramatic
>>> list.
>>>
>>> 90% of the scenario's its a given if a ship wanted to leave there is
>>> nothing other players can do to stop them. Technically you could play it
>>> out in every battle but its very hard to stop ships escaping via
>>> acceleration. There are a few where the retreat is strictly not allowed at
>>> all till the objective has been destroyed and all of those should be fought
>>> although there is nothing stopping the attacker from leaving.
>>>
>>> in order to determine how many of your ships is docked is
>>> FRD has 36 docking points each CA takes 10 dock points.
>>> leaving 16 for any additional ships you would have brought which means
>>> both ships start docked to the FRD at the beginning of the scenario
>>> ** thiis is correct??? **
>>>
>>> FRD scenario is pretty brutal for the defender at least 1 or more of
>>> their ships they brought is docked to the FRD and the rest are going at a
>>> very slow speed. It is nearly impossible to stop the attackers from
>>> pressing for a fight. *FRD:* The defender cannot disengage unless the
>>> FRD has been destroyed.
>>>
>>> Which is why rolling weapon status for the attacker is absolutely
>>> required as a roll of WS 1 or 0.
>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> IF you want to retreat my offer is to mark one of your  CA's as
>>> destroyed (likely the docked ship) and the other can escape with no damage.
>>> We don't have to fight the scenario then.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 8:36 AM Nicholas Steere via SFBdrama <
>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was not aware of that rule actually. Thank you for telling me this, I
>>>> changed my orders in the campaign client so that my fleet will be
>>>> retreating from that scenario, giving it to Don.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:46 AM Wayne Power <wdpower at yahoo.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There has been other emails on this scenario #4002, I think the best
>>>>> way to resolve the scenario is to give the win to the Gorn, and the ISC
>>>>> fleet just disengages (even though the scenario says you cannot disengage
>>>>> until the FRD is destroyed. Remember that the ISC fleet is illegal by
>>>>> (E11.17), and if the ISC was reduced to a legal fleet, it would be only one
>>>>> CAm with INTs, and it would be docked to the FRD.
>>>>> On Friday, 19 July 2019, 12:58:12 pm AEST, Nicholas Steere <
>>>>> steerenicholas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm confused, what do you mean by no auto-retreat option? I know
>>>>> overwhelming force means you can still fight out the scenario if you want
>>>>> no problem, but I was under the impression that you were retreating? I sent
>>>>> an RTA email to everyone when the game first advance to this turn a while
>>>>> ago, saying that unless Don wanted to fight out #4002 with overwhelming
>>>>> force against him he could, but otherwise I was RTA. I don't believe I ever
>>>>> got an email from him after that of him informing me that he wanted to
>>>>> fight out the scenario.
>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:51 AM Wayne Power via SFBdrama <
>>>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Players are welcome to meet at SFBOL on the weekend for a multi
>>>>> scenario battle, or a Circus Maximus in the death bole cruiser challenge.
>>>>> On Thursday, 18 July 2019, 10:45:24 am AEST, Charles Carroll via
>>>>> SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:26 PM Michael Helbig via SFBdrama <
>>>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So another weekend without pow pow.  Depressing:-(
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 7:42 PM Matt via SFBdrama <
>>>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > I still haven't heard anything from the ISC player and I would like
>>>>> to
>>>>> > move on.
>>>>> > There is no auto-retreat option in "Fleet Repair Dock #4002" and I
>>>>> > have had no communications from the player.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have sent a warning to the player. If I don't hear from him before
>>>>> the
>>>>> end of the weekend, I will drop him and advance the turn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Matt
>>>>>
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