Dramatic SFB: Who is who? Late War.

Charles Carroll mastrvran at gmail.com
Thu Dec 13 20:15:05 PST 2018 

Chuck = Romulan

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:07 PM Jarod Ikeda via SFBdrama <
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>>    3. Re: Late War borders (Gregory Flusche)
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>> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 18:29:50 -0800
>> From: Jarod Ikeda <jarod.ikeda at gmail.com>
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>> Balanced borders please.
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>> >    1. Late war (Don Lavanty)
>> >    2. Late War borders (Matthew)
>> >    3. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
>> >    4. Re: Late War borders (Charles Carroll)
>> >    5. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
>> >    6. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
>> >    7. Re: Late War borders (Paul Meyer)
>> >    8. Re: Late War borders (Randy Blair)
>> >    9. Re: Late War borders (joshua s)
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>> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 18:06:20 -0500
>> > From: Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com>
>> > To: sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org
>> > Subject: Dramatic SFB: Late war
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>> > Is there room for one more player?
>> > I could do
>> > Gorn
>> > Kzinti
>> > Hydran
>> > Tholian(neo?)
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>> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:03:03 -0500
>> > From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
>> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Subject: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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>> > Heya Gents.
>> >
>> > I'm putting together the borders for everyone, and have a question for
>> > the list. I have two ways of doing Borders (that I'm considering here.
>> > There's at least one other way, but it's unpopular):
>> >
>> > A) Historical neighbors. Give you neighbors based on who you
>> > historically are near. But in some ratio that makes sense and is
>> > balanced for everyone.
>> >
>> > B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by the
>> > Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with anyone) and
>> > some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could add an
>> > interesting dynamic.
>> >
>> > For those who are curious:
>> >
>> > C) By food group. Plasma are neighbors together, D&D are neighbors
>> > together, everyone else are neighbors together. This is the unpopular
>> > option with the guys here. Not up for grabs.
>> >
>> >
>> > --Matt
>> >
>> >
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>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:04:21 -0500
>> > From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
>> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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>> > > B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by
>> > > the Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with anyone)
>> > > and some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could add
>> > > an interesting dynamic.
>> >
>> > Sorry. To get tot he point of the last email, I had promised to set
>> > things up like this. But I'm finding that it *is* unbalanced. Do you
>> > guys want this option? or should I set it up like I have been?
>> >
>> > --Matt
>> >
>> >
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>> > Message: 4
>> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:09:12 -0500
>> > From: Charles Carroll <mastrvran at gmail.com>
>> > To: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
>> > Cc: SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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>> > Well few borders naturally makes for issues. Balanced Borders makes more
>> > sense since this is not the actual borders...which would have the Feds
>> on
>> > everyone's Border. Pretty much.
>> >
>> > So I am good with balanced.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM Matthew via SFBdrama <
>> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
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>> > >
>> > > > B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by
>> > > > the Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with
>> anyone)
>> > > > and some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could
>> add
>> > > > an interesting dynamic.
>> > >
>> > > Sorry. To get tot he point of the last email, I had promised to set
>> > > things up like this. But I'm finding that it *is* unbalanced. Do you
>> > > guys want this option? or should I set it up like I have been?
>> > >
>> > > --Matt
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>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:13:24 -0500
>> > From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
>> > To: Charles Carroll <mastrvran at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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>> > > ...which would have the Feds on everyone's Border. Pretty much.
>> >
>> > Not entirely true... The Peladine, for example, would find that their
>> > only neighbor is the Lyrans. And where the Romulans have two players,
>> > only one of them would be "Federation-facing" (the other is presumably
>> > in the other half of the empire.) Other empires are in similar straits.
>> >
>> > But indeed that the Federation players would, probably, each have some
>> > of the largest starting borders.
>> >
>> > --Matt
>> >
>> >
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>> > Message: 6
>> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:16:33 -0500
>> > From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
>> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
>> > Message-ID: <59e5731e-ac19-7abc-eba6-0d3da62bf398 at mattnet.org>
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>> > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
>> > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
>> >
>> > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
>> > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
>> > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
>> > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
>> > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
>> >
>> > --Matt
>> >
>> >
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>> > Message: 7
>> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:26:34 +0000
>> > From: Paul Meyer <falrun at hotmail.com>
>> > To: "sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org" <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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>> > I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: SFBdrama <sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org> on behalf of
>> Matthew
>> > via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
>> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
>> >
>> > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
>> > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
>> >
>> > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
>> > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
>> > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
>> > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
>> > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
>> >
>> > --Matt
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>> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:37:03 -0500
>> > From: Randy Blair <randyblair2 at gmail.com>
>> > To: Paul Meyer <falrun at hotmail.com>
>> > Cc: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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>> > No preference
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <
>> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
>> > >
>> > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------
>> > > *From:* SFBdrama <sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org> on behalf of
>> > > Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
>> > > *To:* Matthew via SFBdrama
>> > > *Subject:* Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
>> > >
>> > > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
>> > > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
>> > >
>> > > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
>> > > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian,
>> and
>> > > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
>> > > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians
>> and
>> > > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
>> > >
>> > > --Matt
>> > > ____________________________________________________
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>> > Message: 9
>> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 02:07:56 +0000
>> > From: joshua s <badreligiontrk07 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: "sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org" <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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>> > Option A.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Randy Blair via SFBdrama <
>> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > No preference
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <
>> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>> > I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
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>> > ________________________________
>> > From: SFBdrama <sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:
>> > sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org>> on behalf of Matthew via SFBdrama
>> <
>> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
>> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama
>> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
>> >
>> > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
>> > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
>> >
>> > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
>> > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
>> > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
>> > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
>> > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
>> >
>> > --Matt
>> > ____________________________________________________
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>> From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
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>> So the question was intended to be a quick temperature of the mood of
>> the folks before leaping in to set things up. Thanks for your thoughts.
>> Unless the fam drags me away, I hope to have the game started tonight.
>>
>> --Matt
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 21:45:06 -0500
>> From: Gregory Flusche <shagrat1960 at gmail.com>
>> To: joshua s <badreligiontrk07 at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: Gregory Flusche via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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>> Historical but balanced is fine.. as Hydrans would be stuck with very few
>> :)
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:08 PM joshua s via SFBdrama <
>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
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>> > Option A.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Randy Blair via SFBdrama <
>> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > No preference
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <
>> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* SFBdrama <sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org> on behalf of
>> >> Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
>> >> *To:* Matthew via SFBdrama
>> >> *Subject:* Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
>> >>
>> >> And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
>> >> http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
>> >>
>> >> Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
>> >> campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian,
>> and
>> >> Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
>> >> Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians
>> and
>> >> the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
>> >>
>> >> --Matt
>> >> ____________________________________________________
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