Dramatic SFB: Who is who? Late War.

Thu Dec 13 20:05:16 PST 2018

Jarod = Klingon

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> Balanced borders please.
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> >    1. Late war (Don Lavanty)
> >    2. Late War borders (Matthew)
> >    3. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
> >    4. Re: Late War borders (Charles Carroll)
> >    5. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
> >    6. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
> >    7. Re: Late War borders (Paul Meyer)
> >    8. Re: Late War borders (Randy Blair)
> >    9. Re: Late War borders (joshua s)
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> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 18:06:20 -0500
> > From: Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com>
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> > Subject: Dramatic SFB: Late war
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> > Is there room for one more player?
> > I could do
> > Gorn
> > Kzinti
> > Hydran
> > Tholian(neo?)
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:03:03 -0500
> > From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > Subject: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > Heya Gents.
> >
> > I'm putting together the borders for everyone, and have a question for
> > the list. I have two ways of doing Borders (that I'm considering here.
> > There's at least one other way, but it's unpopular):
> >
> > A) Historical neighbors. Give you neighbors based on who you
> > historically are near. But in some ratio that makes sense and is
> > balanced for everyone.
> >
> > B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by the
> > Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with anyone) and
> > some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could add an
> > interesting dynamic.
> >
> > For those who are curious:
> >
> > C) By food group. Plasma are neighbors together, D&D are neighbors
> > together, everyone else are neighbors together. This is the unpopular
> > option with the guys here. Not up for grabs.
> >
> >
> > --Matt
> >
> >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:04:21 -0500
> > From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > > B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by
> > > the Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with anyone)
> > > and some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could add
> > > an interesting dynamic.
> >
> > Sorry. To get tot he point of the last email, I had promised to set
> > things up like this. But I'm finding that it *is* unbalanced. Do you
> > guys want this option? or should I set it up like I have been?
> >
> > --Matt
> >
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> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:09:12 -0500
> > From: Charles Carroll <mastrvran at gmail.com>
> > To: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
> > Cc: SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > Well few borders naturally makes for issues. Balanced Borders makes more
> > sense since this is not the actual borders...which would have the Feds on
> > everyone's Border. Pretty much.
> >
> > So I am good with balanced.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM Matthew via SFBdrama <
> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by
> > > > the Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with anyone)
> > > > and some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could add
> > > > an interesting dynamic.
> > >
> > > Sorry. To get tot he point of the last email, I had promised to set
> > > things up like this. But I'm finding that it *is* unbalanced. Do you
> > > guys want this option? or should I set it up like I have been?
> > >
> > > --Matt
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:13:24 -0500
> > From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
> > To: Charles Carroll <mastrvran at gmail.com>
> > Cc: SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > > ...which would have the Feds on everyone's Border. Pretty much.
> >
> > Not entirely true... The Peladine, for example, would find that their
> > only neighbor is the Lyrans. And where the Romulans have two players,
> > only one of them would be "Federation-facing" (the other is presumably
> > in the other half of the empire.) Other empires are in similar straits.
> >
> > But indeed that the Federation players would, probably, each have some
> > of the largest starting borders.
> >
> > --Matt
> >
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> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:16:33 -0500
> > From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
> >
> > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
> > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
> > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
> >
> > --Matt
> >
> >
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:26:34 +0000
> > From: Paul Meyer <falrun at hotmail.com>
> > To: "sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org" <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
> >
> >
> > Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> >
> > ________________________________
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> > via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
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> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
> >
> > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
> > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
> > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
> >
> > --Matt
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> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:37:03 -0500
> > From: Randy Blair <randyblair2 at gmail.com>
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> > No preference
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <
> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org wrote:
> >
> > > I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
> > >
> > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* SFBdrama <sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org> on behalf of
> > > Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
> > > *To:* Matthew via SFBdrama
> > > *Subject:* Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
> > >
> > > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> > > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
> > >
> > > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> > > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian,
> and
> > > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> > > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians
> and
> > > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
> > >
> > > --Matt
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> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 02:07:56 +0000
> > From: joshua s <badreligiontrk07 at hotmail.com>
> > To: "sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org" <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
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> > Option A.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Randy Blair via SFBdrama <
> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>> wrote:
> >
> > No preference
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <
> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
> > I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
> >
> >
> > Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
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> > ________________________________
> > From: SFBdrama <sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:
> > sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org>> on behalf of Matthew via SFBdrama <
> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
> > To: Matthew via SFBdrama
> > Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
> >
> > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
> >
> > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
> > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
> > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
> >
> > --Matt
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> So the question was intended to be a quick temperature of the mood of
> the folks before leaping in to set things up. Thanks for your thoughts.
> Unless the fam drags me away, I hope to have the game started tonight.
>
> --Matt
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> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 21:45:06 -0500
> From: Gregory Flusche <shagrat1960 at gmail.com>
> To: joshua s <badreligiontrk07 at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> Historical but balanced is fine.. as Hydrans would be stuck with very few
> :)
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> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:08 PM joshua s via SFBdrama <
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> > Option A.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Randy Blair via SFBdrama <
> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > No preference
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <
> > sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org wrote:
> >
> >> I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
> >>
> >> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* SFBdrama <sfbdrama-bounces at lists.mattnet.org> on behalf of
> >> Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
> >> *To:* Matthew via SFBdrama
> >> *Subject:* Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
> >>
> >> And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> >> http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
> >>
> >> Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> >> campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
> >> Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> >> Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
> >> the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
> >>
> >> --Matt
> >> ____________________________________________________
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