Dramatic SFB: the new late war campaign

[Gregory Flusche]

You pay for the fighters when you buy the carrier. so a Lancer DD costs 117
with stinger 2s Also he has the drone speed upgrades added into the ships
as well in the data base. What hurts and helps depending on what side you
are on is that in some scenarios you have a max number of movement points.
So i would throw in a escort carrier. 1/3 move cost ship... with 6
fighters. Matt has tried to keep the record keeping down in the campaigns.
Thus you pay for fighters once and get free replacements.  I was thinking
making players pay for replacements but not sure how that would work and
would be a mess for Matt to program in I am sure.

When playing against a race that brings fighters/bombers and now PFs. Then
yes i would plan for them being there :) Bring your own.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:23 AM TJ Hooker via SFBdrama <
sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:

> Pat did you play against a race with attrition units? Speaking from
> experience, they unbalance every scenario that is reasonably playable on
> the tactical level. I had/ have 2 Hydran borders and I can tell you that
> the Hydrans are up an FF to a DD's worth (or more) of fighters in every
> equitable scenario that I came across, that looked playable. You're like
> thinking ok.. we both have 5 ships, roughly the same force but wait..he has
> 12 stinger  2's. That is another NCL's worth of firepower, if your opponent
> is getting those fighters for free and this is more or less a tactical
> campaign, not a strategic campaign then that is not economically balanced.
>
> On Sunday, December 2, 2018, 12:21:16 PM PST, Pat Hogan <
> hazelnut1968 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I think Attrition Units are fine as they are; it mirrors F&E.  You want
> Attrition Units to go away?  Sink the carrier/tender.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 2, 2018, at 13:33, TJ Hooker via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>
> I would like in as.... guess what? Federation pls
>
>
> Some thoughts on WoA.. Traditional borders matter, big time, much prefer
> that, seems almost necessary. Attrition units need to be paid for in EP.
> (maybe they already where, idk). It really is up to the players as to the
> playstyle they prefer, more of a diplomacy/ strategic level style, or a
> more tactical put it on the map (no or little diplomacy) style of play. My
> understanding is that most players want to get some battles in. So, the
> size of battles needs to be reasonable as well. Less Diplomacy from players
> also seems essential, securing all of your borders except one will in
> reality generate few battles, from personal experience.
>
> Starting distances for the scenarios, while exciting are too close, why
> are we not using tac intel or something similar for start ranges? I get
> that starting at range 50 (scout detection range) leaves alot of options,
> like mostly disengaging.. but most players if they are taking the time to
> put it on the map will not disengage. I am not saying every scenario needs
> to start at range 50 or more based on Tac Intel rules, I am saying in
> general the starting ranges are simply too close, range 17-22 at turn 0
> with large fleets is too crazy and somehow seems unrealistic to me.
>
> Lastly, it seems to me that some ships I wanted to build were simply not
> in the drop down though the YiS was good. I wonder if ALL ships are in the
> drop down that are avail for all races in any given year or if it is just
> what Matt has been able to get in his database. Simply put, I would like to
> be able to build ALL units available Per Yis rules and prototype rules if
> that is possible. As a tangent to this I really like the overall use of
> CO's and refits we simply enough as well.
>
> Otherwise I think Matt's and Frank's Campaigns have been a ton of fun. I
> generated some good battles, there are some interesting scenarios (that is
> a big deal), and in general the balance of EP vs risk/ reward seem good. I
> look forward to some good late war battles as the Federation.      - Justin
>
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