Dramatic SFB: SFBdrama Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

Thu Dec 13 18:29:50 PST 2018

Balanced borders please.

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>    1. Late war (Don Lavanty)
>    2. Late War borders (Matthew)
>    3. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
>    4. Re: Late War borders (Charles Carroll)
>    5. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
>    6. Re: Late War borders (Matthew)
>    7. Re: Late War borders (Paul Meyer)
>    8. Re: Late War borders (Randy Blair)
>    9. Re: Late War borders (joshua s)
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> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 18:06:20 -0500
> From: Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Dramatic SFB: Late war
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> Is there room for one more player?
> I could do
> Gorn
> Kzinti
> Hydran
> Tholian(neo?)
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> From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
> To: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> Subject: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> Heya Gents.
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> I'm putting together the borders for everyone, and have a question for
> the list. I have two ways of doing Borders (that I'm considering here.
> There's at least one other way, but it's unpopular):
>
> A) Historical neighbors. Give you neighbors based on who you
> historically are near. But in some ratio that makes sense and is
> balanced for everyone.
>
> B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by the
> Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with anyone) and
> some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could add an
> interesting dynamic.
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> For those who are curious:
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> C) By food group. Plasma are neighbors together, D&D are neighbors
> together, everyone else are neighbors together. This is the unpopular
> option with the guys here. Not up for grabs.
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>
> --Matt
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> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:04:21 -0500
> From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
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> Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by
> > the Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with anyone)
> > and some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could add
> > an interesting dynamic.
>
> Sorry. To get tot he point of the last email, I had promised to set
> things up like this. But I'm finding that it *is* unbalanced. Do you
> guys want this option? or should I set it up like I have been?
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> --Matt
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> From: Charles Carroll <mastrvran at gmail.com>
> To: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
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> Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> Well few borders naturally makes for issues. Balanced Borders makes more
> sense since this is not the actual borders...which would have the Feds on
> everyone's Border. Pretty much.
>
> So I am good with balanced.
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM Matthew via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
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> >
> > > B) By F&E. Same historical neighbors, but in some ratio dictated by
> > > the Fed&Emp map. Some people will have very few borders (with anyone)
> > > and some will have large borders. So it's not balanced, but could add
> > > an interesting dynamic.
> >
> > Sorry. To get tot he point of the last email, I had promised to set
> > things up like this. But I'm finding that it *is* unbalanced. Do you
> > guys want this option? or should I set it up like I have been?
> >
> > --Matt
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> From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
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> > ...which would have the Feds on everyone's Border. Pretty much.
>
> Not entirely true... The Peladine, for example, would find that their
> only neighbor is the Lyrans. And where the Romulans have two players,
> only one of them would be "Federation-facing" (the other is presumably
> in the other half of the empire.) Other empires are in similar straits.
>
> But indeed that the Federation players would, probably, each have some
> of the largest starting borders.
>
> --Matt
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> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:16:33 -0500
> From: Matthew <matt at mattnet.org>
> To: Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
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> Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
> Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
> the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
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> --Matt
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> From: Paul Meyer <falrun at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
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> And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
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> Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
> Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
> the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
>
> --Matt
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> From: Randy Blair <randyblair2 at gmail.com>
> To: Paul Meyer <falrun at hotmail.com>
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> No preference
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> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org wrote:
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> > I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
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> > Matthew via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:16 PM
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> > *Subject:* Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> > And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> > http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
> >
> > Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> > campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
> > Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> > Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
> > the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
> >
> > --Matt
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> From: joshua s <badreligiontrk07 at hotmail.com>
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> Option A.
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> On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Randy Blair via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>> wrote:
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> No preference
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> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <
> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org<mailto:sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
> I'd prefer a more balanced border, even if it isn't 'historical'.
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> To: Matthew via SFBdrama
> Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Late War borders
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> And for those who are curious what the map looks like, try this:
> http://mattnet.org/portfolio/fande.png
>
> Since that is a Y168 map, the un-represented empires (that are in the
> campaign currently) are the Frax and Seltorians. Carnivon, Paravian, and
> Vudar are also not represented, but also not selected in the game. The
> Seltorians would have the slice of Klingon space facing the Tholians and
> the Frax would share the northern Klingon border with the Kzinti.
>
> --Matt
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