<div dir="ltr">When I did a battle force for captains log a few years ago. Using the Jundos.I ran into just that problem. The ruling was to use G3. I was very happy that Matt was using the earlier time frame for the Bombers in the campaign. Historically the Jindariians only added new Tech when the Empires around them used it. Was this done so as to not draw attention to the fact that they actually are more advanced than the other Empires? <div><br></div><div>That does sound right.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 7:49 AM Wayne Power via SFBdrama <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org" target="_blank">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
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<div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">from BBS,</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><div><table bgcolor="#E3E3E3" width="100%" border="1" style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1"><font face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica" size="2" color="#000000"><font size="-1">By <font size="1"><b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://www.starfleetgames.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=display_profile&profile=petrick-MODERATOR" target="_blank">Steve Petrick (Petrick)</a></b></font> on <font size="1" color="#000080">Monday, January 27, 2020 - 03:23 pm</font>: <font size="1"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://www.starfleetgames.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=editpost&postid=817545&page=12031/40622" target="_blank">Edit</a></font></font></font><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="gmail-m_-1646544836387965080gmail-m_237359198600520651yiv0514676632ydpb1d8971aenhancr_card_9039887682" style="max-width:400px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://www.starfleetgames.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=editpost&postid=817545&page=12031/40622" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)" target="_blank"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" width="400"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:rgb(255,255,255);width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224,228,233)"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);padding:16px 0px 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px"></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-radius:0px 0px 2px"><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);max-width:314px">Profile Editor</h2><p style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151,155,167)"></p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></td></tr></tbody></table><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:medium">"John L. Stiff:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></p><div>My memory is not what it was, so someone may correct me, but to the best of my memory the only reasons the Jindarians are denied the use of bombers is a case where they are using the original bomber dates that were in Module F1 and superseded by Module G3 (Jindarian bombers begin appearing in the Alpha Octant in Y172, not Y88). Or other special scenario rules denied the use of bombers for the given scenario, or the player tried to put bombers on a non-asteroid ship, or the player tried to put bombers and fast patrol ships on one ship (even the Jindarians are not allowed to put heavy fighters, a class that for this purpose includes bombers, on a space control ship/stellar domination ship, or any ship that is otherwise a true PF tender"</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">and some other notes on same BBS page about using G3 </div><p></p></div><br clear="none"></div>
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<div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Matt,</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">The last time I asked the BBS it was the new G3 is the Jindarian bomber list, they still get bombers as early as other empires when bombers first appear. (it was done for historical reasons, the jindarians kept technology developments at the same pace as the other surrounding empire in their area of operation).</div>
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<div><div dir="ltr">Hey guys. I'm still working on the campaign database project.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">First: it looks like I'm still on track for finishing up by new-years. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Good news all around.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">However, I've run into a teensy little snag that bugs the heck outta me. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">The Year-In-Service dates for the jindarian bombers in module G3 has <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">nearly doubled. This flies in the face of the bomber descriptions in a <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">couple of particulars and is so wildly different than the original <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">source (module F1) that it's got to be wrong. Buuut... G3 is supposed to <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">be the most-current-update. All of my other data assumes it is <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">authoritative (except for those few modules I have that were published <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">later.)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">So I'd like to see if you guys can find me some commentary that solves <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">this issue one way or another (Errata? BBS comment? Email from <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">ADB's-PR-nightmare?) If not, then I will (very reluctantly) have to go <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">with the G3 dates as published and the Jindarians will lose their place <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">as the first people with bombers by half a dozen spots.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">--Matt<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">____________________________________________________<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Dramatic SFB campaign chatter list<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://sfbdrama.mattnet.org" target="_blank">http://sfbdrama.mattnet.org</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:SFBdrama@lists.mattnet.org" target="_blank">SFBdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://lists.mattnet.org/listinfo.cgi/sfbdrama-mattnet.org" target="_blank">http://lists.mattnet.org/listinfo.cgi/sfbdrama-mattnet.org</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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