<div dir="ltr">Trust me I find fighting Carnivon's very dangerous those disruptor cannons are nasty. His force does include a CV group but I have 6 interceptors included<div><br></div><div>Carnivon have</div><div>CWL, 2xCW, CWB, DWS, 2xDWA, CVS 12 fighters(JK-4 & HY-3), ISC CC w// int's</div><div>vs my Paravian</div><div>CWL, 3xCW, RMS w/ 2p-b&p-sd w/ ints, BCH w/ Ints, DWL w/ int's</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>his force is at least 100bp more than mine.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 2:52 AM Wayne Power via SFBdrama <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
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On Monday, 7 September 2020, 09:38:20 am AEST, Gregory Flusche via SFBdrama <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org" target="_blank">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-6104447832644794458yiv9281524814"><div><div dir="ltr">Yes looks legal to me as well </div><br clear="none"><div id="gmail-m_-6104447832644794458yiv9281524814yqt60698"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:09 PM Matt via SFBdrama <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org" target="_blank">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br clear="none">
> He has a total of 7 ships with 4 command type/ Leader equivalent ships <br clear="none">
> ( they have Flag bridges etc!). Is this Fleet legal or has he got too <br clear="none">
> many leaders/ Command ships. His ships are :<br clear="none">
> CWL, CW, CW, CW, RMS (with 3 pods), BCH, DWL.<br clear="none">
> To be honest it's the DWL that looks as if it should not be there by <br clear="none">
> itself as there are no SC 4 ships to lead!<br clear="none">
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Flag bridge does not necessarily make it a leader variant. For example, <br clear="none">
starbases (S8.27) and some Lyran ships (R11.5). Even leader variants <br clear="none">
don't always have flag bridge - see most DWLs and FLGs. As near as I <br clear="none">
figure, leader variants are marked as such only on the SSD (though <br clear="none">
looking at higher-than-normal Command Ratings for the class can be an <br clear="none">
indicator. Unfortunately, that also captures some PFTs and carriers.) <br clear="none">
See (S8.36); it begins with the most complete definition of a leader <br clear="none">
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The RMS (regardless of the number of pods) counts as a Size-Class 2 <br clear="none">
ship. As such, it counts under (S8.331). One would think that (S8.363) <br clear="none">
applies to keep it from being considered as a leader, but the RMS is <br clear="none">
actually a dreadnaught-sized tug variant - which is still not a leader <br clear="none">
variant. (note that the tug pods are never applied against a flagship's <br clear="none">
command rating.)<br clear="none">
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The BCH very much is under (S8.333). This also excludes it from being <br clear="none">
considered a leader variant. This also allows the BCH to be included, <br clear="none">
specifically regardless of the inclusion of a Size-Class 2 unit.<br clear="none">
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So per (S8.36), the consideration of leader variants falls to the CWL <br clear="none">
and the DWL. The CWL is leading a full squadron of CWs, allowing the DWL <br clear="none">
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The above fleet appears legal to me.<br clear="none">
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