<div dir="ltr">Well having read the rules for this...several of which address Carrier Groups....which this is not...and it ignores an actual example that says specifically that using 2 D5Ls without 2 additional D5 variants is prohibited. It all comes down to what constitutes a fleet...and if so...at what point does a fleet have a flagship. As such I asked the question in SFB and should hear back from Steve Petrick soon. But it seems like they would not have given this exact example...as an invalid fleet...if it had to have a flagship and that bypassed the example entirely.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 3:14 AM Paul Graves via SFBdrama <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail-m_-835993082256479701ydp8960d75dyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
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On Tuesday, April 2, 2019, 1:53:48 PM PDT, Marcel Trahan via SFBdrama <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org" target="_blank">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-835993082256479701ydp70c81a7fyiv7867239390"><div><div dir="ltr">S8.3 specifies that you cannot have a second leader if the first one is not leading 2 other ships od the same class.<div>S8.363 also specifies that the Flagship is exempt of the leader/lead provision.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>So, it is possible to have 2 leaders ships together as long as one of them is the flagship. If ou want to include a 3rd leader, then, in that case, the 2nd leader has to lead 2 ships.</div><div>You can name any ship as the Flagship, and it is this ship command rating that will be used for the maximum possible number of ships in the fleet.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>So, it is legal to feild 2 leader type</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Marcel</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_-835993082256479701ydp70c81a7fyiv7867239390gmail_quote"><div class="gmail-m_-835993082256479701ydp70c81a7fyiv7867239390yqt7268337077" id="gmail-m_-835993082256479701ydp70c81a7fyiv7867239390yqt71742"><div class="gmail-m_-835993082256479701ydp70c81a7fyiv7867239390gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 2:43 PM Paul Meyer via SFBdrama <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-835993082256479701ydp70c81a7fyiv7867239390gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Sorry, I'm at work so I don't have my books with me, but isn't there also a rule stating 'only 1 DN per fleet'?</div>
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<div>Both D5L each carry 2 G1 for a total of 4 G1 (or they could be G1K or G1B).</div>
<div>And this time, you will be facing a Klingon TGB carrying two pods, not punny LTT.</div>
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<div>Hi Josh. The Hydran "Three R Us" is my empire. I think you have the advantage in Convoy Raid #3602 but it might be fun to play a turn or two to see what happens. I assume -sab means the ship has paid for the sabot refit?</div>
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Convoy Raid #3602: 2nd Destroyer flotilla escorting a convoy of Epitaph record equipment has detected Hydran ships nearby, Do they even listen to music? More importantly how good are they in a mosh pit? Seems a fight is brewing here. Who is Three R Us and do
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Probe Recovery #3603: Our bouncers (police ship) detected Hydran presence in our borders looking to extract one of our probes. Unfortunately the captains of warships were injured in a stage diving incident and they were delayed we are unable to do anything
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