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Losing ships when withdrawing (usually to an overwhelming force) is likely going to result in players sending only large forces to scenarios. Plus no one wants to fight that outgunned.
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<div>I’m all for more fighting. A destruction/cripple BPV tally as a winning condition is likely to help that. </div>
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On Nov 29, 2018, at 5:03 AM, Paul Graves via SFBdrama <<a href="mailto:sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org">sfbdrama@lists.mattnet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1542563772142_559214" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1542563772142_576164">I think restarting is a good idea, but only if we change how we do things. I strongly agree with others that suggest encouraging more fighting and
less withdrawing. As I proposed a while ago players should be forced to engage somewhat if they send ships or lose a portion of what they sent maybe as much as 50%. T</span>his seems realistic to me since many times the scenario in theory might represent
a valuable resource or protecting the empire's citizens and as such would not just cut and run if moderately outgunned. Also as I suggested have more caps on what is allowed to be sent to scenarios, either in terms of BPV allowed, number of ships, or total
movement cost like some of the Convoy scenarios so it's more likely reasonably balanced forces on each side arrive.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1542563772142_559214" dir="ltr">I also think we might come up with a more well defined overall win condition as some have suggested. This too might encourage aggression especially if it involves how many opponent ships you've crippled
or destroyed. One way or another we need to prevent such massive buildups of everyone's fleets and that means either reducing build amounts or increasing destroyed ships. I think the latter is clearly more fun and if one can reasonably replace them there's
less fear of losing ships. If people are reluctant to be too draconian in forcing battles perhaps limit fleet sizes in some way so you literally can't make new ships without replacing older ones. So you might as well use them and lose them in battle vs just
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1542563772142_559214" dir="ltr">Perhaps also if you also had some form of additional rewards for fighting, such as allowing legendary officers to be created in ships that participate in increasing numbers of battles.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1542563772142_559214" dir="ltr">I otherwise don't feel strongly about the year we start but would prefer not going backwards in time. So anywhere Y178+ would be great. <br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:56 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Dramatic SFB: WoA<br>
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> Maybe start a bit lower and in 5 years...or so get there? I dont know.<br clear="none">
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I have no problem if we'd like to end the current game and begin afresh. <br clear="none">
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Starting too late does introduce issues. Particularly, that the database <br clear="none">
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So let's see a show of hands: Who does *not* want the WoA to stop?
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