Dramatic SFB: Age of PFs Orders

[Wayne Power]

 That is a solid enough Carnivon force, has an ISC CC to help with firepower, the Paravians could still hold their own.
    On Monday, 7 September 2020, 07:06:00 pm AEST, Majead Farsi <majeadfarsi at googlemail.com> wrote:  
 
 More like 300 more than yours! I will be fighting this one! As I'm well up here in fire power! Encounter #2116 I'm not fighting that one as I'm well outgunned!! #2115 I'm still debating if there is a way of saving the freighters. will let you know on that one!
Majead

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 08:38, Don Lavanty <emeketos at gmail.com> wrote:

Trust me I find fighting Carnivon's very dangerous those disruptor cannons are nasty. His force does include a CV group but I have 6 interceptors included
Carnivon haveCWL, 2xCW, CWB, DWS,  2xDWA, CVS 12 fighters(JK-4 & HY-3), ISC CC w// int'svs my ParavianCWL, 3xCW, RMS w/ 2p-b&p-sd w/ ints, BCH w/ Ints, DWL w/ int's


his force is at least 100bp more than mine.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 2:52 AM Wayne Power via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:

 
You would need to battle in a fleet, with some heavy ships, to take that Paravian force on.     On Monday, 7 September 2020, 09:38:20 am AEST, Gregory Flusche via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:  
 
 Yes looks legal to me as well 
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:09 PM Matt via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:


> He has a total of 7 ships with 4 command type/ Leader equivalent ships 
> ( they have Flag bridges etc!). Is this Fleet legal or has he got too 
> many leaders/ Command ships. His ships are :
> CWL, CW, CW, CW, RMS (with 3 pods), BCH, DWL.
> To be honest it's the DWL that looks as if it should not be there by 
> itself as there are no SC 4 ships to lead!


Flag bridge does not necessarily make it a leader variant. For example, 
starbases (S8.27) and some Lyran ships (R11.5). Even leader variants 
don't always have flag bridge - see most DWLs and FLGs. As near as I 
figure, leader variants are marked as such only on the SSD (though 
looking at higher-than-normal Command Ratings for the class can be an 
indicator. Unfortunately, that also captures some PFTs and carriers.) 
See (S8.36); it begins with the most complete definition of a leader 
variant that is off the top of my head.


The RMS (regardless of the number of pods) counts as a Size-Class 2 
ship. As such, it counts under (S8.331). One would think that (S8.363) 
applies to keep it from being considered as a leader, but the RMS is 
actually a dreadnaught-sized tug variant - which is still not a leader 
variant. (note that the tug pods are never applied against a flagship's 
command rating.)


The BCH very much is under (S8.333). This also excludes it from being 
considered a leader variant. This also allows the BCH to be included, 
specifically regardless of the inclusion of a Size-Class 2 unit.


So per (S8.36), the consideration of leader variants falls to the CWL 
and the DWL. The CWL is leading a full squadron of CWs, allowing the DWL 
to be included under (S8.361).


The above fleet appears legal to me.

--Matt

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