Dramatic SFB: Turn 2 RTA Cycle?

Tue Jan 1 10:50:43 PST 2019

Since i started this chain of email, i feel responsible of how it went.

I spoke out of frustation to having to wait and i let my impatience get the
best of me.
We are all trying to do our best, and i feel sorry that it went out of
hands like that.
Can we go back to civilised talking and start the new year on a better
footing?
With Xmas season almost over, things should be going faster and i hope that
this sad chain of email has shown that a lot of people want really to play
and have fun and that everybody should take into account that some players
have that campaing at heart and waiting can be frustating. My apologies for
it.

As for Matt, he is offering us this wonderfull environment to play, out of
his free time (which he does not have much, between work and family) for
FREE. I think he is doing his best and i am very happy for what he has
provided so forth.

Thanks Matt for everything and please disregard this ungratious chain of
event.

I think that better communication and understanding will help for the
future.

Happy New Year to everybody

Marcel
AKA Devilish6996
AKA Kronos

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 12:35 PM Randy Blair via SFBdrama <
sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:

> P.S. where the hell is Matt? It's not cool when the campaign moderator
> isn't leading by example. If you are going to run a campaign with this many
> players, you need to be available.
>
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 1:30 PM Randy Blair <randyblair2 at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just advance the turn when you say you're going to advance the turn and
>> the problems will self correct.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 8:39 AM TJ Hooker via SFBdrama <
>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org wrote:
>>
>>> Just my honest opinion, keeping it real, all that crap.. Remove me from
>>> the campaign if you want, its not like anything is actually happening and I
>>> am tired of these two in particular already (Ben and Paul). I am completely
>>> comfortable with everything in my email and I can do even better. Tired of
>>> reading their crap, tired (already) of waiting for this game to even start,
>>> simply not worth putting up with having to read their emails. Literally
>>> everyone else is just fine. Still "voting" for removing both of them.
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019, 5:32:48 AM PST, Francois Lemay <
>>> lemay.frank at rogers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Justin,
>>> That is crossing over the line, way over.
>>> Your email is totally unacceptable and unnecessary.
>>>
>>> We need to be respectable towards each other, no matter what.
>>>
>>> Most unfortunate.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Tue, 1/1/19, TJ Hooker via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Dramatic SFB: Turn 2 RTA Cycle?
>>> To: "sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org" <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>, "Matthew
>>> Potter" <matt at mattnet.org>, "Ann Monaghan" <lemay.frank at bell.net>
>>> Date: Tuesday, January 1, 2019, 8:00 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>         How about we just remove Ben and Paul, both are
>>> quick to respond and to flame (and then complain in the same
>>> email about those players, lol what a joke, love it when the
>>> real dicks call the reasonable ones dicks when they are
>>> really the ones being dickheads.. totally common in
>>> today's climate) anyone who asks why this garbage fire
>>> of a campaign start is what it is.. and those players asking
>>> are right to do it (the players asking for the turn to
>>> advance and why this shit is taking so long, that is).
>>>
>>> We have
>>> been waiting on one player to learn what PF's are and
>>> that they don't work in a 1000 point fleet, took him a
>>> week or more to figure that simple truth out, wow. Now we
>>> are well past the admin set deadline and 15 or so players
>>> are waiting for days now on 1-2 guys, really? Who are these
>>> 2 turds calling people dicks and responding to every request
>>> to adv the turn as if they are an admin or somehow their
>>> opinion matters?? Lets just remove Paul and Ben, and get on
>>> with as Ben put it " having fun". At a minimum it
>>> will more or less eliminate the email strings that these 2
>>> keep creating by complaining as they wont be there to flame/
>>> pontificate and the admin can simply respond per usual.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Happy New Year and Best Wishes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                     On Monday, December 31, 2018, 7:03:31 PM
>>> PST, joshua s via SFBdrama
>>> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I too am a culprit for doing a turn and forgetting to hit
>>> the button. I wouldn’t have been aware that I was being
>>> waited on until Matt said something.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Holidays are extraordinarily slow no matter how you
>>> look at it. It’s the nature of this time of year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent
>>> from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 31, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Charles Carroll via SFBdrama
>>> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then my job here is complete....any time I
>>> get to cause you pain I am happy muhahahaha.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 9:45 PM Pat Hogan
>>> <hazelnut1968 at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It pains me; but I agree with you 100%
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> —Pat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent
>>> from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 31, 2018, at 21:19, Gregory Flusche via SFBdrama
>>> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 8:57 PM Charles
>>> Carroll <mastrvran at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul....Ben....yeah there is some...mild
>>> complaining. Why? Because some people actually want to play
>>> a game that they end up able to play lol.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some people....seem to want to play...when ever they
>>> remember to look for it. Which seems to take...weeks for a 1
>>> day move at this level. Then when we do get to to an actual
>>> situation where someone has 5 fights....and their opponents
>>> are over scattered
>>>   time zones we really get bogged down. But that is not
>>> really an issue. It is understandable. What is not so
>>> understandable is I want to play a game sign me up and a
>>> month later...oh wait??? I signed up for something??? Um
>>> what was it? Oh yeah...here is my
>>>   turn that took me 10 minutes to do. While the rest of the
>>> people who actually wanted to play...sit...and sit...and
>>> sit...for no reason what so ever. So while I understand your
>>> not wanting there to be a lot of complaining. I also
>>> understand that if you actually
>>>   do not give a crap about playing. Do NOT sign up for a
>>> large multi person game. If you realize you are going to
>>> have issues. Let someone know...you know...a 10 second email
>>> advising Matt or everyone. Common courtesy seems to longer
>>> be common.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway. As I have a number of campaigns and other games
>>> I play. This situation does not bother me much. But I can
>>> get my turns entered easily. I have more time than most. So
>>> can also play my combats. I also as should be obvious...play
>>> as a battle captain
>>>   as often as needed. But...if I could not do this...but felt
>>> like gee...I have a right to if and when I get around to it
>>> remembering to play. Then I should not be playing in a multi
>>> person campaign like this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The opinions stated are indeed mine. Take them for what
>>> they are worth.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 7:58 PM Gregory
>>> Flusche via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am sorry if i sounded like i was
>>> complaining. It is the holidays and all. We just have to
>>> wait is all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 7:42 PM Paul Graves
>>> <paulgraves at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I completely concur with Ben.  I too am tired of the
>>> whining about people not finishing their moves on a
>>> timescales that they believe is reasonable.  We haven't
>>> even finished one turn and we have multiple batches of these
>>> that frankly are quite unfriendly
>>>   and quite off putting.  Either let's set deadlines and
>>> stick to them or don't.  Either way, please stop the
>>> complaining.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Btw Matt, it doesn't help when you single out
>>> publicly who hasn't submitted moves.  If people ask,
>>> just state how many players haven't submitted moves not
>>> who they are, and if you feel anyone is acting too slow then
>>> contact them individually or warn them
>>>   that if they don't act soon you will advance the
>>> turn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 31, 2018, 12:37:45 PM PST, Ben Sh
>>> via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm getting way too many of these shall I say
>>> complaining emails please remove me from the distributions
>>> if you're going to be complaining. I'm in g the
>>> campaign to have fun, don't be stressed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 4:30 PM Marcel Trahan
>>> via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well
>>> In a campaign with 16 players, it is bound to have one
>>> or two players that won't take the 5 minutes to give
>>> theirs orders even if it means to have all the other players
>>> on hold.
>>> Perhaps it should have a hard deadline or players that
>>> don't feel like playing should resign.
>>> When you join a campaign, you should be sure to be able
>>> to commit to it or otherwise, just don't join.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For sure, it is going to be a VERY SLOW campaign.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:50 AM Michael
>>> Helbig via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Off to a VERY slow start I see.  Sigh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 8:17 AM Gregory Flusche
>>> via SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 11:02 PM joshua s via
>>> SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m RTA forgot to hit the button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2018, at 6:20 PM, Gregory Flusche via SFBdrama
>>> <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> good they will have no ships deployed
>>> mwaaaamwwaaa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 9:09 PM Matthew via
>>> SFBdrama <sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When will you cycle the turn?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, i did say i wouldn't cycle it until today. However
>>> ....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How many guys haven't hit the RTA yet?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hazelnut, DragoAstro, and Blackwind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --Matt
>>>
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