Dramatic SFB: Finishing Fleet Build

[Gregory Flusche]

I know that i am real happy that Matt has made the program. It has given me
plenty of time to play SFB. Working on what i like best small fleet
actions... around 3 ships are so a side. building a fleet and yes in Matts
program You do need the small ships. To send to that annoying lose a border
battle if you lose and gain 45 EP with a win. to send on your allies border
battles again so you win the EPs. Of late i have been trying to guess what
the other player will send and match it BPV wise. Not always correct but i
do try,

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:39 AM Randy Blair <randyblair2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It used to be that there were income rewards that carried over from turn
> to turn.  So, instead of a base 30EP every turn, for example, it could
> increase or decrease depending on the scenarios won or lost.
> The "leading empire" was, as I understand it, based on a formula combining
> fleet strength, income and cash on hand.  I may be, and probably am, wrong
> but it seemed like that was the gist.
> The problem was the random element.
> When you were a defender, you could lose significant recurring income,
> which was totally logical, but if you had 4 scenarios like that, you were
> going to lose, period.
> I think that's really the best model, and most appropriately represents
> what a real campaign would look like.  But the randomizer should be a bit
> different, based on previous encounters - specifically those encounters
> which involved a fixed asset.
> How that's achieved, programatically, I don't know.
>
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 5:29 PM Gregory Flusche <shagrat1960 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The problem is in finding a good balance. It is in my opinion not borders
>> as in finding a victory condition for the campaign and a way to increase
>> battles by not having some one sending huge fleets to each border and
>> winning that way?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 12:15 PM Marcel Trahan <marcel.trahan91 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was not saying that all scenarios whould have big negative, but i
>>> would replace some ''no border'' scenarios with negative ones.
>>>
>>> Marcel
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 11:00 AM Randy Blair via SFBdrama <
>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, there would have to be some mechanism by which you could only get
>>>> so many of those.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 10:10 AM Don Lavanty via SFBdrama <
>>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No thanks on the negative points you could be unfortunate enough to
>>>>> get all 8 missions defence and you are basically just out of the game just
>>>>> because of the RNG.
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 4:00 AM Charles Carroll via SFBdrama <
>>>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would work fine like that. But then there is no way to lose border
>>>>>> that so not sure if that is a viable answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 5:13 PM Gregory Flusche <
>>>>>> shagrat1960 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt could you make a non player race? That when some one attacks a
>>>>>>> non border and closes it it would open a border with the non player race.
>>>>>>> Giving a player a free border only needing to assign a ship there to gain
>>>>>>> the EPs? Are is that not possible with your program?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:43 PM Charles Carroll via SFBdrama <
>>>>>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lol yeah I over do it at times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok in a nutshell. No Borders are bad bad bad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only reason to try and take a border is if you absolutely need
>>>>>>>> to reduce your combat area because it is hurting you too badly to have that
>>>>>>>> much area to defend.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So no one ever fights a No Border scenario because they gain
>>>>>>>> nothing and lose every possible point the could make in the future. It is a
>>>>>>>> lose/lose Pyrrhic Victory where winning hurts you as much or more than him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marcel's idea of must defend or you lose enough income to be hurt.
>>>>>>>> And/or the idea of a negative balance means you must kill a ship of equal
>>>>>>>> or lessor value or several ships to pay the cost would work better. As in
>>>>>>>> considering that all ships require some upkeep and maintenance and if your
>>>>>>>> balance is negative then you cannot support all your ships.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So this is why there is an issue with the idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:29 PM Matthew via SFBdrama <
>>>>>>>> sfbdrama at lists.mattnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry Charles, but your email rambled along in a fashion that
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> wasn't able to follow your line of thinking. Would you please try
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> again?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Matt
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